> be so nice not to say what I should write

My apologies, I hope that you will therefore be so polite as to not  
bother other people who are interested in the theme of the  
thread/question by not posting off-topic replies. I'll take that as a  
yes.

> "if we wanted to we could indeed"
>
> who is "we" ?
> no more community ?

You brought it up, you explain - I see no reason why *a* community  
couldn't do so, just not *this* community (or at least not this one  
with my participation).

> "
> If you have anything relevant to say
> about *that*, please do say it, otherwise you're going off-topic.
> "
> If you expected my YES as the only on-topic, you were wrong.
> NO is the same relevant as your YES.

I don't care if you say YES or NO, just that you answer the questions  
on-topic rather than going off on a tangent.

> I say NO for your Council.

Thank you for your input, can you tell me why (and this is probably  
the first on-topic theme in this series of emails) or what alternative  
you think would improve the situation?

> If you are already self-nominated to your Community Council,
> just say so and don't waste our time for any discussion.

I am not. The point of the thread (if you go back and read the first  
post) was to work out what sort of structure a community council  
should have, how many people it should contain, how they should be  
elected, what they should do, etc. It's not really a community council  
if the community aren't involved... hence the question. If people want  
me to be a part of it I would be happy to be, if not I'm fine with  
that too.

The fact that a number of us have been thinking about this does not  
give us defacto positions, as I repeatedly say, the community must  
decide what and who it wants. This email thread was to ask the  
community's opinion and someone had to start it (and it wasn't even me  
:).

> Nokia , as a corporation, has one business goal
> to generate profit to the corporation , in vestors and shareholders.
> There is no other goal for business corporations.
> Look at Microsoft, Yahoo, Google and others.
> You can still attract volunteers, but your goal is making money.
> Today, tommorrow and after tommorow.
> For Nokia, their goal is to manufacture Nokia Internet Tablets
> and sell at a reasonable price, to compete with Sansung, Apple and others
> and generate profit for investors, shareholders.

Yes indeed. And supporting the maemo.org community will benefit all  
parties: the community members by better organising documentation,  
streamlining and improving interaction with Nokia (bugs,  
feature/status requests, hopefully beta code testing, etc.); and Nokia  
by making it a more pleasant/easier/more productive place for  
independent developers to do good work.

I've probably missed lots of things off there, but that's my view with  
my developer's hat on anyway.

> Any activities by communities financed, sponsored, donated by Nokia
> or other corporations, must follow the basic goal of the corporation.

In general yes, and here the community adds value to Nokia. So there  
should be no problem unless this is all simply a rant against  
Nokia/commercial use of Linux, and in fact you had no intention of  
giving any useful input to the questions that were posed?


Simon


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