Am 28.12.21 um 14:31 schrieb yuv via mailop:
On Tue, 2021-12-28 at 12:11 +0100, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote:

I'm working on a reputation based system which would use a p2p
network to transmit reputation opinions very quickly,
COMPLICATED.


The problem is behavioral, not technological.  More technology is not
the solution.

I'm a software developer, not a lawyer. And as you certainly know, if the only tool you have is a hammer, all things tend to look like nails...

Triggering changes in law or pushing contractual agreements between third parties is out of my reach. If you can do it, more power to you! I'll resort to things I can do. As a spam recipient (or mail admin of systems with hundreds of recipients) my primary goal is to keep as much spam as possible out of my user's mailboxes at as low cost as possible. And as a software developer, my way of doing it is to identify spammer resources and block them, regardless of their location. I have tried talking to hosting providers and domain registrars, it's not effective. As a single person I have absolutely no means to change their mind.

The main aspect of my pipe dream is not the technology, but the social effect - spammers won't be much impressed, but agents at the border between spammer services and normal business have a reputation which can suffer if enough information about their bad behavior is available.

Reputation is a very powerful lever where laws are not present or effective. When entities engage in unethical yet legal behavior, spreading information about them and enabling interested parties to take their own measures (boycott) has shown to be effective, and ultimately it may lead to improved laws. One example is the gradual creation of laws to improve environmental awareness and animal wellbeing in the production of food. Much of that started by grassroots awareness campaigns which made the discount supermarkets look bad when their products were created in ethically questionable ways.

I somewhat hope that improved rejection of spam mails and making spam-supporting agents known will gradually make spam less effective. I know that this hope may be futile. If it is, I will at least improve the signal-to-noise level for my users, which is a good goal anyway.

Cheers,
Hans-Martin

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