On 2022-04-15 at 08:37:54 UTC-0400 (Fri, 15 Apr 2022 14:37:54 +0200) Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop <r...@rafa.eu.org> is rumored to have said:
> Dnia 14.04.2022 o godz. 12:40:52 Al Iverson via mailop pisze: >>> Yes, it is unfixable. Once Google's AI decides (for no apparent reason) that >>> it will reject e-mails from you, or put them to recipients' spam folder, >>> there's pretty much nothing you can do about it. >> >> That is false. > > I can believe your claim that "that is false" if you can give me a WORKING > advice of what can I do to make my e-mails get to the Google's inbox. Other > than "change your ISP" or "change your domain", as this is NOT A SOLUTION, > as I already stated. OK, so you know why Google rejects your mail and how you could fix it, if you wanted to have your mail accepted instead of having a solid point to argue here. So the text that Al quoted is not actually true. There IS an apparent reason and there IS something you could do about it. > BTW. It's definitely a domain thing, not an IP reputation thing, since I > send from the same server e-mails from different domain that I mentioned in > my previous email, and those get through. However mails from this address > don't. They are hand-typed, plain text, without any links or attachments. > Just like this one. But anything coming from this domain is right away > spam-marked by Google. > > I have discussed this even directly with Brandon Long from Google on this > list. I have submitted the issue via their "sender troubleshooting form" > multiple times (BTW. they state it clearly in the form that you WON'T GET > ANY RESPONSE!). No effect. > > If you still think this is fixable, then give me a working fix. Don't try to send mail to shabby mail operators with a domain that they can't distinguish from similar ones that they correctly know to be used as throwaways. I am NOT saying that what Google is doing is "right" in some way that doesn't assume a Google corporate viewpoint. It's not. It's stupid and wrong, unless one is primarily concerned with Google's short-term financial bottom line. But as Al said, it is simply false that they are acting at random or that their deterministic blundering cannot be worked around. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
