Moin,
am 19.10.22 um 20:08 schrieb Bernardo Reino via mailop:
Well, now that it's public anyway 😄 -> www.bbmk.org
BTW they replied an hour ago with:
[…]
which means they'll whitelist the IP address (can take up to 24h).
Which OTOH means that Deutsche Telekom is still whitelisting mailservers that
comply with their request to be able to identify the other side. And which
means that the subject is false, nothing has basically changed besides the
response sent by Deutsche Telekom. Thank you for the update!
Am 19.10.22 um 20:24 schrieb Bernardo Reino via mailop:
TBH I don't think this has anything to do with net neutrality, but the term is
(ab)used for many purposes and sometimes even with opposite meanings.
Yeah, I doubt this is on a net neutrality level, it's a some level above that.
I think this is just Deutsche Telekom going Microsoft. But instead of rejecting
(or silently dropping after accepting) after DATA they block the connection
itself (so at least you know what hit you and when..)
As said before: this is nothing new, the need to whitelist one's sending
server(s) to reach t-online.de customers exists for several years already (at
least since 2012, see
https://serversupportforum.de/threads/kein-mailversand-mehr-an-t-online-moeglich.46646/).
To me it's a case of "their server, their rules" but also a clear case of "shooting yourself in the foot" or if my German doesn't fail me now "sich ins Knie schießen".
They do it for at least a decade now, without major pushback there's no reason
why they shouldn't do it until IPv4 is dead and buried.
-kai
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