On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Kadal Amutham <vka...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> And last but not least, there are huge commercial interests in both >> project. Don't forget, the program it self is 90 % and more done by paid >> developers, not by volunteers. This is the case for Apache OpenOffice and >> LibreOffice. We at Apache call all volunteers, but this doesn't mean, that >> this people are not payed for their work. Same are not, yes, but many are. >> >> Things are getting more complicated now. So the effort of volunteers >> are commercialized. If the above statement is true, then it is better to >> call volunteers as unpaid laborers. >> > > > Not really, you can commercialize OpenOffice, anyway you want. Most of > FLOSS model are build on the provision of services, from migrations to > costumization for specific needs of costumers. However is true that this > right can be taken by indiviudals the same way as large corporations with > many costumers around the world and brand recognition, and hordes of sales > people ready to charge you for FLOSS products. > > The comercialization on the community goes in the way that many core > developers have corporate agendas that can skew the way the community > approach the development route. You can always re-fork these efforts but > really is a question that is common on every society. A group of people > focused on the same thing, can lead better than a larger group with no > focus roaming around with no common target. > It is also important to mention, that this is a meritocracy, so we heavily rely on what people do, more than what people say. Although in my experience, people are still more sensitive to what is being agreed upon on top of an existing contribution. > > > >> >> With Warm Regards >> >> V.Kadal Amutham >> 919444360480 >> 914422396480 >> >> >> On 27 June 2013 11:38, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote: >> >> > Software is about ideas, freedom is about taking those ideas the way you >> > want to. Forking is something that is natural in real life all the time. >> > You take ideas from others, make it your own, and share your version of >> the >> > idea. The Apache philosophy is a different set of ideas than the GPL >> one. >> > >> > It would be very insensitive to tell 2 different people to forget their >> > ideas and work together because they are doing the same thing. Also just >> > because you don't agree doesnt mean we will do as you say. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Kadal Amutham <vka...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > > I am new to this FLOSS world. But it appears to me as follows. >> > > >> > > We are complicating ourselves and get entangled into the complication. >> > > >> > > With Warm Regards >> > > >> > > V.Kadal Amutham >> > > 919444360480 >> > > 914422396480 >> > > >> > > >> > > On 27 June 2013 11:02, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote: >> > > >> > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Kadal Amutham <vka...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > My simple question why this wastage of effort and what purpose it >> > > serves? >> > > > > >> > > > Because we have two different licenses, Apache and GPL. These are >> > > > incompatible, there really is legal ramifications and benefits to >> have >> > > two >> > > > different licensed code of the same source. That said, this happens >> a >> > lot >> > > > in fLOSS, gnome vs kde, emacs, vs vim, sodipodi vs inkscape. >> > > > >> > > > FLOSS is the hability to fork. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > With Warm Regards >> > > > > >> > > > > V.Kadal Amutham >> > > > > 919444360480 >> > > > > 914422396480 >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On 27 June 2013 09:25, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > you can argue the same thing for every different linux distro. >> Thre >> > > are >> > > > > > mantainers of the same software packages on two (or actually >> many) >> > > > Linux >> > > > > > distributions which are different FTP servers all over the >> internet >> > > > that >> > > > > > end up on the same mirrors. Volunteers do repetitive marketing >> and >> > > > > > localization tasks for each distro. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > welcome to free software. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Kadal Amutham < >> vka...@apache.org >> > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice are developed by fully / >> mostly >> > by >> > > > > > > volunteers. Both serve the same purpose. Two separate teams of >> > > > > volunteers >> > > > > > > are doing the same work. In both teams, many volunteers are >> > > > translating >> > > > > > > same sentences repeatedly. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > As you are aware volunteers are not paid. So the time and >> effort >> > of >> > > > > > > volunteers are very precious and one should be very careful >> that >> > > > there >> > > > > is >> > > > > > > no wastage. In my opinion any wastage of volunteers effort and >> > time >> > > > is >> > > > > a >> > > > > > > crime. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I am sorry to say that this crime is happening in both LO and >> > AOO >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > V.Kadal Amutham >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > Alexandro Colorado >> > > > > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor >> > > > > > http://www.openoffice.org >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Alexandro Colorado >> > > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor >> > > > http://www.openoffice.org >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Alexandro Colorado >> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor >> > http://www.openoffice.org >> > >> > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > http://www.openoffice.org > > > > > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
