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David Walters writes: > But I can tell you now: anything that stymies the worlds desire to > increase their standard of living ... will not find a hearing > whatsoever and will be opposed. Unfortunately I agree. As I see it, the chances are slim that a movement based on voluntary self-restraint comes off the ground now. It is more likely that our social systems remain unable to rein in the profit motive, and those individuals who have options and could make a difference now through a mass movement will not act decisively and quickly enough to prevent dangerous climate change. It is my guess that most of them will not wake up until it is too late, i.e., until even the fairest social system can no longer protect them from starvation and accelerating disasters. Let's hope that, when the decline has progressed to that point, people will maintain their humanity and face the hard times with dignity instead of exacerbating them by going to war, OR CONTINUING TO EAT MEAT IN THE FORM OF CANNIBALISM. But as long as I have enough time, food, and health now, I will use my retirement years to live simply and help others who also want to live simply, to support any political movement that tries to solve a facet of the wicked problem before us, and to patiently try to convince anyone who comes into earshot that big changes are necessary now, before everything has visibly crashed. And I am not alone. Many others see the danger too and try to react in similar ways. See for instance Bill McKibben's call for a WWII-like mobilization https://newrepublic.com/article/135684/declare-war-climate-change-mobilize-wwii Hans G Ehrbar _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com