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> On Feb 1, 2010, at 3:45 PM, S. Artesian wrote:
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>> Fossil fuels provide 98% of the energy for transportation-- now we  
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>> certainly reduce that by knocking down the usage of automobiles--
>> but unless you envision mini-reactors, or solar-sails,  on board
>> every locomotive, every container ship, ever cargo plane, ever
>> tractor-trailer, we are not going to eliminate fossil fuels in the
>> near, and probably distant, future.
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> This is unduly pessimistic, because it doesn't consider the (since
> 1937) unutilized transport technology of the past and the future: the
> airship.  But consider the degree of change in heavier-than-air
> technology since 1937, and imagine for instance what modern aviation
> technology (lightweight ultrastrong carbon-fiber materials for
> example) offers to lighter-than-air ships. The (300m long)
> Hindenburg's hydrogen unit had less than 700,000 cubic meters
> displacement.  A 500x125x125m cylindrical unit would have ten times as
> much displacement and could achieve more than proportionally greater
> lift even with its hydrogen at a much greater pressure.  Several of
> them would fit on every modern jet runway. The airships would be
> driven by engines powered by fuel cells feeding on the ship's own
> hydrogen (to be repressurized when necessary from fueling tanks at
> each airport) as well as by solar cells on its upper surface during
> daytime flights. The hydrogen would be produced through electrolysis
> driven by local wind farms located relatively nearby, and by a massive
> single-purpose wind farm located near the primary manufacturing
> facility (a factory on the scale of River Run, which fortuitously is
> entirely disposable for such a purpose!).
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> The gondolas of the airships could carry 1,000 or more tons (the
> Hindenburg supported 90).  A gondola one/fifth the length of the
> airship could carry 500 passengers and crew with 6 m.sq. (65 square
> feet) per person--the change would be from traveling in a sardine can
> to traveling in a spacious lounge (of course all the components of an
> airship are scalable, so they can be almost as small or large as
> desired).  A dirigible undoubtedly will fly much less fast than a
> jumbo jet but the stress on every passenger would be less by an even
> greater magnitude (and in the age of the internet--that is right now--
> who except a contract killer or the child of a dying parent really
> *needs* to get from Moscow to Los Angeles inside of one day?)  And as
> with passengers, likewise with freight.
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> So everything needed for medium and long distance transport can be
> supplied with no absolutely no need for fossil fuel or nuclear power
> at all. And since automobiles and trucks can all be made electric
> (hydrogen fuel cells and batteries charged with wind-farm electricity)
> the residual share of fossil and nuclear fuel in transportation would
> eventually look like 2, not 98 percent.
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> Is this futurism a utopia? Of course, *exactly* as much a utopia as
> socialism itself.  Because capitalism of any sort will never make the
> massive investment needed, nor will it write off the humungous amount
> of capital now invested in the--obsolescent--transportation  
> industries.
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> But I do dream of the day when the first of the great airships
> (called, of course, the Humanity) makes its maiden round-the-world
> voyage and people everywhere look up and exclaim Oh! the Humanity!
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> Shane Mage
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>> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
>> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
>> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
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>> Herakleitos of Ephesos
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Shane Mage
Shane Mage

> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
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