My claim that Trump accepted Iran’s control of the Strait of Hormuz and
taking tolls was based on the following:
1)Iran has done this in the past weeks and continues to do so. Sure,
Trump hates it, but his key demand in past weeks was that they stop
doing this. Iran didn’t comply and Trump … agreed to a ceasefire. I
short, it is the power of the factual.
2)Trump claimed that he has large agreement with Iran about the 10-point
plan which the latter published.
3)Trump retweeted the announcement of Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas
Araghchi in which he said that for two weeks, safe passage through the
Strait of Hormuz would be possible “/via coordination with Iran’s Armed
Forces/”. This means that reopening the strait comes with Washington’s
recognition of Iran’s authority over it.
Am 09.04.2026 um 17:26 schrieb Mark Baugher:
There were two of us who objected, and David can speak for himself. My
objection, Michael, has less to do with Iran than the kind of agitprop
that misleads rather than informs. For example:
"Furthermore, the ceasefire agreement also includes that Trump has to
accept that Iran continues to control theStrait of Hormuz and to
collecttolls fromvessels transiting the route."
As David pointed out, you cited Iran's proposal and called it "the
agreement." If your claim is that Iran has won and the war is now
over, that Iran's terms have been accepted by the US, Israel and Saudi
Arabia, I think that's dangerously misleading. US aggression against
Iran is not over. There is no "agreement." Like in Greenland, Trump
climbed down once again and we don't know why. Unlike Greenland, it
probably isn't over. We don't know what the Europeans threatened to do
but Trump fled the European conference two days early.
My point was that your analysis is incomplete because there was no
consideration of the Gulf States. MBS is probably at least as
important to Trump's motives as Israel because of Saudi money. Like in
the Occupied Territories, you focus on the military and neglect the
political, anticipating a military victory where they can be none. The
US is being politically humiliated and isolated but not seriously
weakened by Iran's intransigence; the US allies are. A political
victory is far more likely. China and the EU are opposed to the US war
and can do things about it. Maybe they already are doing it. We don't
know. People have pointed out that the China and the EU are holding
enough US bonds that they could create a financial crisis in the US by
massively selling them.
Mark
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