For those young guys who want to thrash your Datto's on the road, join a car
club and go rallying.  You will soon learn that it takes a lot more skill to
stay up there with the good drivers than most black top punters have.  If
you survive the first couple of events without destroying your car, you will
have learnt more about driving under all sorts of conditions, and have a lot
of respect for your Datto's ability to handle real punishment.

You will also be mixing it with a bunch of serious competitors, very
different from the show pony brigade cars built for 20 seconds of straight
line (albeit sideways sometimes) speed only.
After looking at the Targa pics you've got to agree that rallying a Datto
for days on end has to be more fun than a 20 second blast in the main
street.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Kroehn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2002 0:36 AM
Subject: Re: Re:Ben/Legal matters.....brad


> I agree mate, its just sometimes that a racetrack isn't always handy.
When
> I live in Mount Isa the nearest racetrack is Hidden Valley about 1600kms
> away and the nearest drag strip is in Townsville about 1000km away.  The
> only place to really give the car a fanging is out of town off the
highway.
> Telstra has a bitumen road snaking up a hill that goes to one of the
repeata
> stations.  It flows nicely with some tricky corners and nice "on camber"
> hairpin at the end.  I reckon it would be perfect for some hillsprints if
> the local car club could orgainise it but I doubt the local authorites
would
> have a bar of it!!!
>
> Daniel Kroehn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Ottens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:07 AM
> Subject: RE: Re:Ben/Legal matters.....brad
>
>
> >
> > brad i can see where your coming from. and i think its where everyone
> comes
> > from(besides all us hoons)
> > i think theres also a time and a place for everything. being a young
hoon
> of
> > only 17 i have seen a lot of incidents with friends in public places
> during
> > broad daylight. ala one of my friends around the corner was drink
driving
> at
> > 5pm and wrote his car off into a bunch of trees in front of my house on
> the
> > oval.
> > but i think alot of people also criticise the living shit out of "hoons"
> and
> > at times just plainly bad drivers. my mate was definately in the wrong
and
> > coped a fine and is losing his license. i think this is very fair
> > punishment, what i dont think was appropriate was the guy that came up
to
> > him and punched him one, and went off at him, and the lady which claimed
> he
> > went around the corner at 90+kph. a 90degree corner where he crashed
over
> 50
> > mtrs after the corner. yes he took it too fast for his car a heavy arse
xf
> > wagon. and hes never been sideways b4 so didnt know what to do, ended up
> > vearing to wrong side of road and into some trees.
> >
> > what also bothers me is how when i drive down my street and gun in
through
> > first and second gear at high revs. i stop at about 40mph so only just
> over
> > the speed limit people look at me like im going 200ks or soemthing.  but
i
> > can kane past at 90 in 5th gear and wont even get a glance.
> >
> > i admit i have done a lot of stupid things in my time and im sure alot
> more
> > will come, but when i do i try to do it as safe as possible, like only
at
> > sorta a more safer time than others. like 4am compared to 4pm.
> >
> > again. just my opinion on this topic too.
> >
> > but no brad i dont blame you. but i guess it wouldnt bother you as much
if
> > people did it at a place and time where theres minimal to no risk in
> others?
> > but not just on the track?
> > i wouldnt mind getting your feedback on this.
> >
> > cheers,
> > ryan
> >
> > >From: "Brad Hallett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: RE: Re:Ben/Legal matters
> > >Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:10:16 +1000
> > >
> > >I'll probably be howled down here but I don't care, I simply don't
> > >understand what the fascination is with doing a burnout or racing on
> > >suburban roads.
> > >
> > >If you want to build horsepower and prove yourself and your vehicle,
> > >build a club racer or street class dragger and do your burnouts and
> > >racing at the track.  Don't fuck around on the street that our families
> > >drive on to get to work, school, uni etc.
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Jackson
> > >Sent: Monday, 22 April 2002 9:42 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Re:Ben/Legal matters
> > >
> > >
> > >it's actually called discretion :)
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:12 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Re:Ben/Legal matters
> > >
> > >
> > > > your missing the point, he can do something like that and only get
> > > > fined, whereas a car is being impounded for much less, that is what
i
> > > > meant by my "Bloody cops" remark
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Rick White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:06 PM
> > > > Subject: Re:Ben/Legal matters
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ben.
> > > > > Don't you mean bloodie idiot mate.
> > > > > He got wot he deserved.
> > > > > He doesn't deserve a licence or to own his car he deffinatly
desrves
> > >
> > > > > to
> > > > have it confiscated.
> > > > > Rick White.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > its a bit harsh, my mate has been caught doing a toey in front of
a
> > > > > cop,
> > > > he
> > > > > got a $80 fine and got told there are places to do things like
> > > > > this......empty car parks, heh. also just the other day he let his
> > > > > v8
> > > > charger
> > > > > come full noise opp lock around a corner in town, smoke pouring
> > > > > outta
> > >the
> > > > > tyres, right in front of a cop.....once again $80 fine, no points.
> > >bloody
> > > > cops.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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