Often people put rock-hard suspension in and real low profile tyres and the car is not compliant enough for road conditions, you can find better grip with a more compliant package or even lower tyre pressure.
Quoting Rick White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Daniel, the car was lowered, it had a FJ20et under the bonnet, ect ect, the > car was fine to drive with 14's and the last set of 15's, once he went up > the one extra size, it all went to sh*t. > I didn't even like the rims he bought either, they were missing the > centrecaps. > All I know is my car is set up for the 14's, going to 16's or 17's I would > have to start all over again. > Later. > Rick White. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Kroehn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:39 PM > Subject: RE: Performance superlites for 1600 > > > > Handling has got a lot more to do with the rest of the suspension than > > just changing the rims. Did your friend have the car lowered at all? > > Maybe the spring rate was far too high for the dampers, I know changing > > rims can have an effect on the handling but it's only a small part of > > the entire equation. > > > > Cheers > > > > Daniel Kroehn > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick White > > Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2003 3:24 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Performance superlites for 1600 > > > > Huhh?? > > I have 195/60/14's on my wagon, I have 185/60?/13's on the SSS, I think > > they > > have the same diameter, just don't like the style of the 14's that are > > on my > > wagon is all I am saying. > > I like superlights on sedans, they just don't seem to look the part on > > my > > wagon. > > > > What is this tyre roll?? > > Do you mean when cornering, and the tyre rolls/twists across the rim as > > you > > corner?? > > > > I look at things a little different, than most, where a rim, you hope is > > going to be lighter than the tyre is in the middle, you make the rim > > larger, > > and bolt on lower profile tyre, wouldn't it take more time and effort > > accelorating, and braking with 17 inches of alloy and a really light > > rim?? > > > > I know when I had the 215/40/13's on the rear of my wagon, it gained > > speed > > quicker, and dropped speed when braking faster. > > > > Isn't that better in the long run. > > > > I also I have been in a 1600 with 16's and the thing was horrible in the > > handling department, the tyre profile was tiny, and when pushed, the > > tyre > > did not roll as lets say my 195/60/14's do and the thing drifted into > > corners, nice and fun in the dry, but in the wet NO THANKS!! > > > > Rick White. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:50 AM > > Subject: Re: Performance superlites for 1600 > > > > > > > What Rick you on weetbix and vegiemite?. > > > > > > 175x60x13 (on a 13x6) is the same height as 185x60x14 on a 14x7 > > > > > > > > > Malcolm > > > I'll go with less trye roll" > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rick White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:46 PM > > > Subject: Re: Performance superlites for 1600 > > > > > > > > > > All I can say on this subject is ( Damm I Must Be Getting OLD ) > > > > I am busting to get my15's on my wagon, I do not like my 14's, but > > my > > SSS > > > is > > > > going to stay with a nice 13' alloy rim. > > > > I would never think of putting a set of 17's on a 1600. > > > > One because of the sheer cost of doing so, buying the 17's, buying > > tiny > > > > profile tyres for silly prices ect ect > > > > Two because if I wanted a car that suited 17's I would buy a WRX or > > > > something simular, 70's cars don't need 17's to show they are as > > good as > > > > 2003 models, lets see people all over the world spending in > > proportion > > > with > > > > the times, and original retail price of the cars the money we all do > > on > > > our > > > > 1600's to lets say a WRX?? > > > > They will never be the cult car a good old 1600 is. > > > > Later. > > > > I feel sooo old :O( > > > > Rick White. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Daniel Kroehn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 8:19 PM > > > > Subject: RE: Performance superlites for 1600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey mate, I'm picking up mine tomorrow, maybe when you get your > > struts, > > > > > we could fit a bare strut without the spring and one of my bare > > rims > > to > > > > > check how well they fit? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > Daniel Kroehn > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuey > > Roberts > > > > > Sent: Monday, 1 September 2003 7:46 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: RE: Performance superlites for 1600 > > > > > > > > > > Hey guys/girls, so, can i get a recap, if i was to go out and buy > > a > > set > > > > > of > > > > > Superlites in 15x6inch, i need to ask for the 114.3 with what > > > > > offset/backspace or whatever it is? I will be running them on > > 200B > > > > > struts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Andrew Greenbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Subject: RE: Performance superlites for 1600 > > > > > >Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:22:24 +1000 > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks Errol, > > > > > > > > > > > >Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew, > > > > > > > In my experience the following occurred, steering was stiffer > > to > > > > > turn, > > > > > > > stability probs at speed (increased toe out from drag) and > > wheel > > > > > shimmy > > > > > >at > > > > > > > certain road speeds. > > > > > > > Not a pleasant experience. > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > Feral Errol > > > > > > > Get Serious tm<http://www.datrats.com.au/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > Andrew > > > > > > > Greenbury > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:13 AM > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Performance superlites for 1600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gday Chris, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah I would think the steering would be heavier - given that > > the > > > > > > > majority of the extra rim width is distributed out more than > > in, > > if > > > > > you > > > > > > > know what I mean, resulting in the centre of the tyre contact > > patch > > > > > > > being further out. Errol or one of the other guys has probably > > > > > driven > > > > > > > with this sort of configuration and might be able to give an > > > > > indication > > > > > >of > > > > > > > how much of an effect it has on steering. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gday Andrew, > > > > > > > > Ay idea how the extra width out the side would effect the > > weight > > > > > of > > > > > >the > > > > > > > > steering. I would assume the steering would be heavier as > > the > > > > > scrub > > > > > >radius > > > > > > > > has increased? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Chris King > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:00 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Performance superlites for 1600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been told by Performance that their 16x7 superlite > > bolts > > > > > onto > > > > > >a > > > > > > > > > 1600 with a 12mm offset too. But with some calcs I don't > > think > > > > > this > > > > > >can > > > > > > > > > be the case due to guard clearance: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7in wide with 12mm offset results in a 114mm backspace, or > > a > > > > > 90mm > > > > > > > > > distance from the mounting face to outer edge of rim > > (closest > > to > > > > > > > > > guard). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My 15x6s have a 20mm offset, 109mm backspace, and 69mm > > > > > > > > > distance from the mounting face to outer edge of rim, and > > they > > > > > are > > > > > >just > > > > > > > > > fitting with 240K front struts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore 7in rims with 12mm offset would stick some 20mm > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > out! The performance superlites in a 15x6 have a 24mm > > offset > > and > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > would fit without mods; the 15x7s not without flares :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was under the impression that the performance > > superlites > > > > > were > > > > > >bolt > > > > > > > > > > on but when i rang the guys about the sizes i was told > > that > > > > > 15x7 > > > > > >for > > > > > > > > > > 4x114.3 pcd were only available in 12mm offset. There is > > a > > > > > couple > > > > > >of > > > > > > > > > > cars i have seen with these wheels, have they modified > > them > > or > > > > > > > > > > >just > > > > > > > > > > bolted them on? Im running 2 deg caster, 1 deg neg > > camber, > > > > > 340mm > > > > > >at > > > > > > > > > > the front, 240k struts. If the cleareances are fine, i > > would > > > > > >assume > > > > > > > > > > steering effort would be increased. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any help would be great > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris (damb its hard finding wheel for a 30 year old > > datto) > > > > > King. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Get less junk mail with ninemsn Premium. 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