Hi y'all - from Rick's link, I cannot accept the following quote:
 "I will argue that totally correct knowledge -- "truth" -- is neither
the goal, nor the product, nor any part of the process of scientific
work."
Neither am I a fan of Popper - why is the "quest for truth" recklessly
critical?

On Oct 27, 9:23 am, stem cell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>Rick S said, "My aim is not to disparage logic,
>
> only to point out that it is limited in scope."
>
> Can you provide an example of another type of verification system that
> works better than logic?  Do you know of any system that is not
> "limited" or at least not as "limited" and what is that system?
>
> The only ones I can come up with are psychic abilities and
> FAITH.  :-)  Not sure "FAITH" is a "system" but go with me here. :-)
>
> >>>Taylor said, "Most people who go to great lengths to point out limits of 
> >>>science
>
> (real or imagined) are usually doing so in order to remove obstacles
> to your believing in their brand of woo."
>
> Dr. Wayne Dyer, perhaps?  Charles Gillihan?  Michael Behe?  Oooh
> oooh!  Wait...Steven C. Myer of the Discovery Institute.
>
> >>>Taylor said, " I see nothing on the site about who "Dr. Terry Halwes" is 
> >>>or what his
>
> credentials are.  That normally means a medical doctor or dentist, at
> best, but more likely a Ph.D. in theology or some other pseudo
> science.  In other words, not a scientist."
>
> What about a phone psychic?  Wait...did I just say that or think it?
>
> stemcell
>
> On Oct 26, 11:53 pm, Rick S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >      In researching an idea for an essay I had about the limits of
> > logic, I came across a very interesting essay by a scientist, to which
> > I will provide a link.  By the way, I also picked up some very
> > interesting quotes about logic.  My aim is not to disparage logic,
> > only to point out that it is limited in scope.  First the quotes:
>
> > "What is laid down, ordered, factual is never enough to embrace the
> > whole truth: life always spills over the rim of every cup."
> > - Boris Pasternak
>
> > "Pure logic is the ruin of the spirit."
> > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
>
> > "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed
> > that uses it."
> > - Rabindranath Tagore
>
> > The wrong view of science betrays itself in the craving to be right;
> > for it is not his possession of knowledge, of irrefutable truth, that
> > makes the man of science, but his persistent and recklessly critical
> > quest for truth.
> > Sir Karl Popper
> > The Logic of Scientific Discovery
>
> > Here's the link:  http://dharma-haven.org/science/terrible-truth.htm.
>
> > Rick S- Hide quoted text -
>
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