Call mine "fuzzy" are you still seeing my post as "CB"???
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:45 AM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > "Logic may be our only bridge...." - CB > > Often I find that the person who presents the term 'logic' has a > specific method and/or dogma in mind. . . one that is assumed to be a > universal when, of course, it is not. > > There are numerous types of 'logic' as a starting point here. > > On Oct 27, 8:14 am, "C B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Logic is not limited in scope, only the "human" use of it is. Logic is > not > > an isolated system because the brain is not structured that way. Crays or > > thier ilk could be the only true isolated-logic producers we have. Our > fat > > little pinkish grey brain cells can make up some pretty interesting stuff > > like "faith" - you can get lost squirming in metaphysics, which, in my > > opinion, does not take an intuitive thinker, but one that is willing to > be > > led from logic toward delusion. Okay, stake me in the heart, for that > one, > > but I can't go there and believe me I have tried numerous times. > > > > Would you agree that Humans only have one perspective for each brain that > > can only be glimpsed by another brain and much of what we think is a > > delusion to someone else (that is not to be construed as disparaging to > > anyone else)? Logic may be our only bridge.... > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:23 AM, stem cell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > >>>Rick S said, "My aim is not to disparage logic, > > > only to point out that it is limited in scope." > > > > > Can you provide an example of another type of verification system that > > > works better than logic? Do you know of any system that is not > > > "limited" or at least not as "limited" and what is that system? > > > > > The only ones I can come up with are psychic abilities and > > > FAITH. :-) Not sure "FAITH" is a "system" but go with me here. :-) > > > > > >>>Taylor said, "Most people who go to great lengths to point out > limits of > > > science > > > (real or imagined) are usually doing so in order to remove obstacles > > > to your believing in their brand of woo." > > > > > Dr. Wayne Dyer, perhaps? Charles Gillihan? Michael Behe? Oooh > > > oooh! Wait...Steven C. Myer of the Discovery Institute. > > > > > >>>Taylor said, " I see nothing on the site about who "Dr. Terry > Halwes" is > > > or what his > > > credentials are. That normally means a medical doctor or dentist, at > > > best, but more likely a Ph.D. in theology or some other pseudo > > > science. In other words, not a scientist." > > > > > What about a phone psychic? Wait...did I just say that or think it? > > > > > stemcell > > > > > On Oct 26, 11:53 pm, Rick S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > In researching an idea for an essay I had about the limits of > > > > logic, I came across a very interesting essay by a scientist, to > which > > > > I will provide a link. By the way, I also picked up some very > > > > interesting quotes about logic. My aim is not to disparage logic, > > > > only to point out that it is limited in scope. First the quotes: > > > > > > "What is laid down, ordered, factual is never enough to embrace the > > > > whole truth: life always spills over the rim of every cup." > > > > - Boris Pasternak > > > > > > "Pure logic is the ruin of the spirit." > > > > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery > > > > > > "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed > > > > that uses it." > > > > - Rabindranath Tagore > > > > > > The wrong view of science betrays itself in the craving to be right; > > > > for it is not his possession of knowledge, of irrefutable truth, that > > > > makes the man of science, but his persistent and recklessly critical > > > > quest for truth. > > > > Sir Karl Popper > > > > The Logic of Scientific Discovery > > > > > > Here's the link: http://dharma-haven.org/science/terrible-truth.htm > . > > > > > > Rick S- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
