I think that peace (unity) can be achieved in only two different ways: 1. Agreement 2. Force
“Hardwired” or not, these are our choices. Also, saying that “…but in a global society how can we Not police the planet? …”, suggests that ‘we’ have been given that right/power. I know that ‘W’ believes he has been given that directive/power, (by a 'higher power') but have ‘we’? I think not. ‘We’, a euphemism for the current US regime in this context I’ll guess, has for the first time in it’s history shed itself of any pretense of the notion of universality and has, again by some sort of ‘divine right’ or fiat says it can do anything it wishes around the planet. A close analysis of this attitude belies the false dichotomy of “engagement” vs “peace-niks”. Since analogies are the method of ‘truth’ cross bow is using, I’ll use one. The US military is like a cancer spread throughout the body of humanity today. This said, I do not deny that today, yesterday, tomorrow, a year from now as well as a hundred years ago there were, are and will be those who wish to do harm to other people including the people currently in the USA. When this ‘truth’ is 'solved' by becoming State Terrorists in a perpetual war, a greater ‘truth’ arises and that is that ‘we’ perpetually are attracting an even greater amount of ire. This ‘truth’ has always been known. On Oct 28, 7:09 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > interesting that so many think war can go away just like that...do > people really believe that? I know this little note is a spoof, but in > a global society how can we Not police the planet? that is like > letting the guy down the street corner beat the shit out of his wife > and kids in his front yard and watching without response. Oh, yeah > diplomatic relations...sanctions.... > > yes, there are bad choices made for engagement, but total peace-niks > seem delusional to me. Does anyone else think humanity is hardwired > for war in at least 10 different levels? > > On Oct 27, 6:48 pm, stem cell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > great one. thanks. > > > On Oct 27, 6:32 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > Jessica > > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:19 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [skeptics-145] Fwd: Enjoy the read! > > > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 11:47 AM > > > Subject: Enjoy the read! > > > > Dear Red States: > > > > We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're > > > taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren't aware, that > > > includesCalifornia, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, > > > Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast. We believe this split will be > > > beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country > > > of > > > New California. > > > > To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We > > > get > > > stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty. You > > > get Dollywood. We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom. We get > > > Harvard. > > > You get Ole' Miss. We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and > > > entrepreneurs. You get Alabama. We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you > > > get to make the red states pay their fair share. > > > > Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian > > > Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single > > > moms. Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and > > > anti-war, > > > and we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you > > > need > > > people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently > > > willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don't care if you > > > don't show pictures of their children's caskets coming home. We do wish > > > you > > > success in Iraq , and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we're not willing to > > > spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire. > > > > With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of > > > the > > > country's fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, > > > 92 > > > percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 95 percent of America's quality wines > > > (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90 percent of all cheese, 90 > > > percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all > > > living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister > > > schools > > > plus Stanford , Cal Tech and MIT. With the Red States, on the other > > > hand,you > > > will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their > > > projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly > > > 100 > > > percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all > > > Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush > > > Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia. 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