"Please replace the word "spiritual" with something else. Geesus! - J."
Perhaps you would like everyone to share your view about the word 'spiritual'? The result would be a true type of unity...a spiritual notion. "Geesus!" indeed! HaHa On Nov 19, 3:11 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please replace the word "spiritual" with something else. > Geesus! > > J. > > I’ve found that as I age, there are those who wish to ‘assist’ an old > fart like me. And, there are those who couldn’t care less. I’m not > sure this has changed nor is even different from when I was young. > > When it comes to a couple’s relations, the 4 major areas must all be > met for success. Any one or more missing will more often than not > result in the failure of the couple. > > Physical. > Emotional. > Intellectual. > Spiritual. > > On Nov 19, 2:12 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I just thought about your response. I'm not suggesting that it's unfair > and > > mean that men aren't sexually attracted to older women. I'm just saying > > that a woman should be recognized for having value after she has lost > > physical attractiveness. > > > Intellectually, I think men realize that this should be the case, but I > have > > seen firsthand how quick men are to dole out hugs and affection to an > > "attractive" woman and an older woman not even be acknowledged. The guy > > doesn't have to fake attraction or French kiss the old lady, but some token > > of respect should be given to the lady! > > > And what about this opening doors for ladies bit!? I noticed that when I > > was pregnant, men stopped opening doors for me. So, at the times when I > > have or eventually will need assistance (when I get old) the guys are > > letting the door slam in my face, I assume because there is no perceived > > (consciously or otherwise) potential nookie exchange. > > > Having had these experiences (of visibility and invisibility), I can easily > > imagine how my world is going to change over time. I need to find a gimmick > > for when I get old, so I will still be a recognizable individual. I was > > toting with the idea of being the town's crazy cat woman, but the smell > > would get on my nerves, so I'm thinking of only having a few cats, letting > > my hair grow out and being the crazy, mysterious witch lady that lives on > > the hill and is rumored to cavort with the devil. > > > liz > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason > > (Memphis) > > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:54 PM > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for other > > pictures > > > Liz, > > > I agree. Attractive women get way, way too much attention. How do me > > make society give attractive women less attention so ugly women get > > more or as much attention especially from men? > > > Jason > > > On Nov 19, 7:13 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's not the same thing at all. Being ignored because you belong to a > big > > > family or disinterested parents is not the same issue as being ignored > > > incrementally based on physical attractiveness or perceived value to > > > society as a whole. > > > > liz > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason > > > (Memphis) > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:57 PM > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for other > > > pictures > > > > Aren't kids in the "invisibility syndrome" category too? I know > > > quite a few kids that are essentially ignored especially with big > > > families. It is starting to be less of an issue because many couples > > > (or singles) aren't having as many children so their one or two > > > children get lots and lots of attention. > > > > On Nov 18, 9:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I like old chicks. > > > > > J. > > > > > “I do agree with Liz about the "invisibility syndrome". But, isn't it > > > > cultural to the western world?” – CB > > > > > One can generalize about any thought. I find that age alone can > > > > produce a type of ‘invisibility’ for some people. When I was a kid, I > > > > seldom knew how to relate to the old folks let alone found them easy > > > > to get to know. Ignoring them was the easiest defense mechanism. . . > > > > as ignorant as avoidance can be in the long run. > > > > > On Nov 18, 7:17 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> One theory > > > is that women go through menopause in order to dump the hormones > > > > > and switch the ability to produce for focus on caretaking of > > > grandchildren. > > > > > Sounds like evolution wants us to be social servants and makes use of > > > us to > > > > > further survival that way... > > > > > > I do agree with Liz about the "invisibility syndrome". But, isn't it > > > > > cultural to the western world? > > > > > > I have mixed feelings about losing what beauty I have had. > Sometimes > > > it is > > > > > a relief not to maintain it. Nice to be needed for something > > > approaching > > > > > wisdom instead of my bosom:) > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:41 PM, ornamentalmind > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > "Because of the loss of status I feel as I age..." - Liz > > > > > > > Thanks for the stream Liz! And, this quote of yours is what I see > > as > > > > > > the 'crime' of our culture. Historically, age has represented > > wisdom, > > > > > > the opposite of a loss of status. And, as I see it, door opening, > > as > > > > > > much as I was programmed to do it and still do on occasion, has > not > > > > > > been continued as a 'social grace' in many pockets of our culture > > > and/ > > > > > > or has become a curiosity due to the notion of being politically > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 1:28 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Although I agree that beauty can be more than skin deep, I've > > > always > > > > > > thought > > > > > > > men were likely to respond first to positive visual stimulation. > > > If, > > > > > > after > > > > > > > the attention was caught, then other factors like personality or > > > > > > > intelligence entered into the picture. I've thought about just > > > this > > > > > > subject > > > > > > > more and more as I get older and realize that with every year > > that > > > > > > passes, > > > > > > > fewer and fewer men stop to open doors for me. Where once even > > the > > > > > > > teenagers did so, now just the men about my age and older do. I > > > > imagine > > > > > > at > > > > > > > some point that the few men who respond to me in such a fashion > > > will be > > > > > > > doing so out of pity when I am old and unable to open the door > > > myself. > > > > > > > > Because of the loss of status I feel as I age (and also for > > > other > > > > > > > reasons), I am educating myself and developing myself in ways > > that > > > have > > > > > > > little to nothing to do with the way I look. I don't want to > be > > > caught > > > > > > > unprepared when at last the body completely gives and the face > > > sags. > > > > > > > > I am already starting to see wrinkles that don't go away when I > > > stop > > > > > > > smiling, and I never feared wrinkles until I started seeing > them. > > > I > > > > > > think > > > > > > > that to become unattractive is much more problematic or even > > > > devastating > > > > > > > because it seems as though women become invisible as they lose > > > their > > > > > > > beauty. > > > > > > > > This was sort of a rambling email. Sort of stream of > > > consciousness... > > > > > > > > liz > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of > > > > > > > ornamentalmind > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:29 PM > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for > > > other > > > > > > > pictures > > > > > > > > What is obvious to me, perhaps because of my gender, is that in > > the > > > > > > > current US culture, the omnipresence of beauty industry > > advertising > > > > > > > along with programs on corporate tv and radio have been fairly > > > > > > > successful in producing a trance like state within too many > > women. > > > > > > > > The 'avarousness' found at the heart of consumerism has been > > quite > > > > > > > successful in supplanting a clear view of reality within the > > female > > > > > > > brain with one of being born in the 'original sin' of having a > > > > > > > lack...lack of beauty, lack of the right shape, color, height, > > > length > > > > > > > nails, texture of skin etc. > > > > > > > > My entire life, while I do know how my eye appreciates specific > > > shapes > > > > > > > and colors, I find those with inner beauty to be in fact > > beautiful > > > > > > > when it comes to human beings. Anyone who has this pure > radiance > > is > > > > > > > immediately apprehended as being beautiful. > > > > > > > > Those who do not know this innate and true beauty appear to be > > sad > > > and > > > > > > > have a sad life. > > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 8:39 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Google and image Tiziano Vicellio > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Liz Purkrabek > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm not familiar with his works, but I will definitely do a > > > Google > > > > > > > search > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > see what else he has to offer. > > > > > > > > > > liz > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf > > > Of > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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