"Too bad there won't be a rapture. We would have plenty  of game to
eat then!" - J

*** notices that J believes Christians will in fact be raptured ***

On Nov 19, 1:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Too bad there won't be a rapture. We would have plenty  of game to eat then!
>
> J.
>
> I  think that we should all be hunter gatherers an then we’d have time for
> our  children.
> Since  there are too many humans on the planet to make this a practical
> solution, I  suggest some of us volunteer to leave the Earth in whatever way
> necessary to  make a hunter gatherer lifestyle available to all.
> Liz
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of  CrossBow
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:32  AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: I like this  picture. I found it while looking for other  
> pictures
> Kids are more than  ignored.  They are considered to be pests by many adults
> that have no  children simply because they do need lots of attention.  I used
> to be  that way before I had one.  Now I am horrified by that.  Does anyone  
> think that is due to Abrahamic Religions? I do.  
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Jason (Memphis)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >  wrote:
>
> Aren't kids in the "invisibility syndrome" category  too?   I know
> quite a few kids that are essentially ignored especially  with big
> families.  It is starting to be less of an issue because many  couples
> (or singles) aren't having as many children so their one or  two
> children get lots and lots of attention.
>
> On Nov 18, 9:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  wrote:> I 
> like  old chicks.
>
> > J.
>
> > "I  do agree with Liz  about the "invisibility syndrome". But, isn't it
> > cultural  to the  western world?" – CB
>
> > One can generalize about any thought. I  find that age alone can
> > produce a type of 'invisibility' for  some people.  When I was a kid, I
> > seldom knew how to relate to  the old folks let alone  found them easy
> > to get to know. Ignoring  them was the easiest defense  mechanism. . .
> > as ignorant as  avoidance can be in the long  run.
>
> > On Nov 18, 7:17 am,  CrossBow  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote:>  One theory is that women go  through 
> menopause in order
>
> to dump the  hormones
>
>
>
> > > and switch the ability  to produce for focus on  caretaking of
> grandchildren.
> > > Sounds like  evolution wants us  to be social servants and makes use of
> us to
> > >  further  survival that way...
>
> > > I do agree with Liz about the  "invisibility syndrome".  But, isn't it
> > > cultural to  the western  world?
>
> > > I have mixed feelings about  losing what beauty I have  had.  Sometimes
> it is
> > > a  relief not to maintain it.  Nice to  be needed for something  
> approaching
> > > wisdom instead of my  bosom:)
>
> >  > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:41 PM, ornamentalmind  
>
> >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >wrote:
>
> >  >  > "Because of the loss of status I feel as I age..." -  Liz
>
> > >  > Thanks for the stream Liz! And, this quote  of yours is what I see  as
> > > > the 'crime' of our culture.  Historically, age has represented  wisdom,
> > > > the opposite  of a loss of status. And, as I see it, door  opening, as
> > >  > much as I was programmed to do it and still do on  occasion, has  not
> > > > been continued as a 'social grace' in many  pockets  of our culture and/
> > > > or has become a curiosity due to the  notion of being politically
> > > > correct.
>
> >  > > On Nov  17, 1:28 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >  wrote:
> > >  > > Although I agree that beauty can be more  than skin deep, I've  
> always
> > > > thought
> > > >  > men were likely to respond first  to positive visual stimulation.  
> If,
> > > > after
> > > > >  the attention  was caught, then other factors like personality or
> > > >  > intelligence entered into the picture.  I've thought about  just  
> this
> > > > subject
> > > > > more and more  as I get older and  realize that with every year that
> > > >  passes,
> > > > > fewer  and fewer men stop to open doors  for me.  Where once even the
> > >  > > teenagers did  so, now just the men about my age and older do.  I
> >  imagine
> > > > at
> > > > > some point that the few  men  who respond to me in such a fashion
> will be
> > > > >  doing so out of  pity when I am old and unable to open the door  
> myself.
>
> > > >  >   Because of the loss of  status I feel as I age (and also for  other
> > > > >  reasons), I am educating myself and developing myself  in ways that  
> have
> > > > > little to nothing to do with the way I  look.  I don't want to be
> caught
> > > > > unprepared when at  last the body completely gives and the face sags.
>
> > >  > > I  am already starting to see wrinkles that don't go away when  I
> stop
> > >  > > smiling, and I never feared wrinkles until  I started seeing them.  I
> > > > think
> > > > >  that to become unattractive is  much more problematic or even
> >  devastating
> > > > > because it seems  as though women  become invisible as they lose their
> > > > >  beauty.
>
> > > > > This was sort of a rambling  email.  Sort of stream of
> consciousness...
>
> > > > >  liz
>
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >  > > >  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (mailto:[email protected])
>
> >  > > >  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (mailto:[email protected]) ]  On Behalf Of
>
>
>
> > > >  > ornamentalmind
> > > >  > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:29  PM
> > > > > To:  Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > > > >  Subject: Re: I like  this picture. I found it while looking for other
> > >  > >  pictures
>
> > > > > What is obvious to me, perhaps  because of my gender, is that in the
> > > > > current US  culture, the  omnipresence of beauty industry advertising
> > >  > > along with  programs on corporate tv and radio have been  fairly
> > > > >  successful in producing a trance like  state within too many  women.
>
> > > > > The  'avarousness' found at the heart of  consumerism has been quite
> >  > > > successful in supplanting a clear  view of reality within  the female
> > > > > brain with one of being  born in the  'original sin' of having a
> > > > > lack...lack of  beauty,  lack of the right shape, color, height,
> length
> > > > >  nails, texture of skin etc.
>
> > > > > My entire  life, while I  do know how my eye appreciates specific
> shapes
> >  > > > and colors, I  find those with inner beauty to be in fact  beautiful
> > > > > when it  comes to human beings. Anyone  who has this pure radiance is
> > > > >  immediately  apprehended as being beautiful.
>
> > > > > Those  who  do not know this innate and true beauty appear to be sad
> and
> > > >  > have a sad life.
>
> > > > > On Nov 17, 8:39 am,  CrossBow  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >  wrote:
> > > > > > Google and image  Tiziano  Vicellio
>
> > > > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:49  PM, Liz Purkrabek
> > > > >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >wrote:
>
> >  > > > > > I'm  not familiar with his works, but I will  definitely do a
> Google
> > > >  > search
> > > >  > > > to
> > > > > > > see  what else he has  to offer.
>
> > > > > > >  liz
>
> >  > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >  >  > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (mailto:[email protected])>  >  > > > > 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (mailto:[email protected]) ]  On  Behalf Of> > > > 
> > >  ornamentalmind
> > > > >  > > Sent: Sunday,  November 16, 2008 8:36 PM
> > > > > > >  To: Memphis  Freethought Alliance
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: I  like this picture. I found it while looking for
> > other
> >  > > > >  > pictures
>
> > > > > >  > Liz, I've long been a big  fan of Sandro  Botticelli!!!
>
> > > > > > > On Nov 15,  11:32  am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >>  wrote:
> > > >  > > > > See, ladies could be born  beautiful back then.  Now  it takes
> so
> > > >  much
> > > > > work
> > > > > >  > >  and/or surgery...
>
> > > > > > > >  LIz
>
> > > > > > > > -----Original  Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (mailto:[email protected])
>
> >  > > > >  > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (mailto:[email protected]) ]  On Behalf  > Of
> > > > BC
> > > > > >  > > Sent: Saturday, November  15, 2008 1:30 PM
> > > >  > > > > To: Memphis Freethought  Alliance
> > > >  > > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I  found it while  looking
> for
> > > > other
> > > > > > > >  pictures
>
> > > > > > > > On Nov 15, 8:33  am, "Liz  Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >
>
> >  > > wrote:
> > > >  > > > > >  [The+Wave.jpg]
>
> > > > > > >  > That is a  nice pic; but she could stand to lose about a
> 20-spot.
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