Ah, that old crap about small feet is bunk! Your thinking about when they
used to mutilate their feet with wrappings.  Now, I have small feet, and
they are blue!



On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Clogtowner <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hi y'all - I'll bet your aunt has small feet. I've often fancied
> trying the foot fetish. It is popular in Japan. Of course, they need
> small feet as our regular sized ones would obscure the fun over there.
>
> On Jan 6, 9:18 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thanks! Ha.  I have the paperback version of Sun Tzu on my desk in plain
> > view and can't wait for one of the guys here at work to freak out....it's
> so
> > unlady like to study ...war... geesh:)
> >
> > Ever get addicted to Mahjong?
> >
> > My aunt Yumiko is full-blood Japanese and came over in her twenties and
> the
> > culture bug bit me when I was little. She had full silk kimono's and tea
> > sets along with a huge pile of art supplies at her house.  She is loaded
> > with personal charisma and still today has a sheet of black hair down to
> her
> > hips and a classically flawless Japanese facial structure.  A great
> beauty.
> >  Martial artist she is not, but her mind and way of doing thing is still
> > culturally linked to Bushido!  Haven't seen Yumi in few years, but I want
> to
> > tell her I understand more now, how americans and japanese of her
> generation
> > and slightly before feel about each other  - about the great wars. My
> > generation is going to have some of the same issues with Arabic Peoples.
> > How she deals with it is important:)
> >
> > Through my sister I was introduced to the Bruce Lee phenomenon and
> martial
> > arts.  It stuck for years and I still love a good viewing of Enter The
> > Dragon...cheesy as it is;)  My former grand love affair in college was
> > American Chinese with pure blood parents. He is a Kendo expert with a
> full
> > body tattoo, and I just found him on facebook after all these years.  He
> is
> > a fount of all things Chinese because his parents raised him in two
> > languages - two cultures.
> >
> > Envious of you who know Tai Chi ! We are going back to Karate class this
> > spring, together, me and my daughter. Sure to get my bum kicked:)
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:06 PM, ornamentalmind <
> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > For more about Sun Tsu, the standard source has some on him.
> > >http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Sun+Tsu
> > > I read his Art book many years ago. If you appreciate the general
> > > motif, any of the classics will further, from the Yellow Emperor to
> > > the  I Ching...from the Tao Te Ching to any good book on the game of
> > > Go.
> >
> > > I had some wonderful books on Japanese art and architecture when I was
> > > a kid. I was always attracted to their esthetics too.
> >
> > > I started to study Tai Chi around 1970 and have been an instructor for
> > > decades.
> > >http://www.taichifoundation.org/Yes, this has its origins in China
> > > too.
> >
> > > I first learned the game of Go in the late 1950s and never played
> > > chess after doing so.
> >
> > >http://www.usgo.org/index.htmlAnd, yes even though it is the national
>  > > game of Japan, it is believed to have originated at least 3,000 years
> > > ago in China.
> >
> > > I studied 5 element acupuncture, admittedly of Chinese origin for a
> > > few years, after having studied Tibetan medicine for a few years too.
> > >http://worsleyacupuncture.com/
> > >http://www.tibetanmedicine.com/index.html
> >
> > > It was only after studying acupuncture that I finally groked Taoism.
> >
> > > The cultures, while intertwined, have enormous differences. This is
> > > easily studied.
> >
> > > On Jan 5, 1:27 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Oh, I believe the trial was real we have to cover our asses to some
> > > > degree. I don't personally know of anyone that thinks Bush didn't
> > > fabricate
> > > > an excuse anymore, but I suppose you can find them up the road in the
> > > > closest baptist church. Check out the Great Derangement when you have
> > > > time...one link I posted had a free e version.  I would be pissed if
> I
> > > was a
> > > > reporter in this era, how the hell would you know if what you see
> with
> > > your
> > > > own eyes is real?
> >
> > > > Pre-emptive strike is only used to effect if it can be successful..
> this
> > > > Bush whack-job was not in the long perspective was it? It was a
> bitchslap
> > > > that hit the person standing next to the one you wanted to hit,
> > > respectively
> > > > eh?
> >
> > >  > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Isparklaria <
> [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > Whether or not shock and awe was out of Sun Tzu or not, Bush made
> some
> > > > > concessions to modern geopolitical realities by giving a shout
> before
> > > > > the attack. The surprise was lost (Sun Tzu uses surprise as one of
> his
> > > > > most important weapons) but we looked a bit better in the eyes of
> the
> > > > > world by offering not to attack if Sadam Hussien would agree to
> leave
> > > > > the country. THat way the whole thing could look like Saddam's
> fault.
> > > > > If he would just leave, we wouldn't need to attack.
> >
> > > > > Right now I am wondering whether or not the real Saddam did leave
> the
> > > > > country. Perhaps Bush wanted to attack under any circumstances.
> > > > > Perhaps the trial was just a show with a fake Saddam and the
> execution
> > > > > also faked. Well this is probably not the case but I rarely refrain
> > > > > from questioning the information we are fed.
> >
> > > > > As for the current sittuation. I don't know if it was planned, but
> in
> > > > > the long run it may very well benefit the neocons. The mess is so
> bad,
> > > > > I don't know if it can be improved much in 4 or 8 years. Soon the
> > > > > masses will be ready the typical chicken hawk neocon candidates
> again.
> > > > > Hopefully Obama will be a wise comader in chief by using
> negotiation,
> > > > > embargos, threats of violence, violence and what ever other
> policies
> > > > > he need to use. It is funny to say that violence can make the world
> a
> > > > > more peaceful place, but sometimes the situation calls for it. In
> my
> > > > > opinion even premtion is a good tactic, when used properly. Bushes
> > > > > reckless use of preemption has made a good tactic look bad.
> >
> > > > > On Jan 5, 2:57 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Was "Shock and Awe" exposed, given a shout out, before it was
> > > > > implemented? I
> > > > > > can't remember.  If so, it would not be as effective as Sun Tzu
> would
> > > use
> > > > > > it, which would be much quieter, and with more deciet.  And, it
> would
> > > > > have
> > > > > > been effective because we would have know the enemy much better
> that
> > > we
> > > > > > did..as results have proven. Ha, I can see military history
> writers
> > > > > slapping
> > > > > > the Sun Tzu influence down in the final draft of Bush's story
> just to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > the shituation look like it was supposed to happen that way.
>  Blah!
> >
> > > > >  > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Isparklaria <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Sun Tzu Lives! Okay so he probably never lived to begin with
> but
> > > this
> > > > > > > link goes to a page with some infomation about how much Sun Tzu
> has
> > > > > > > influenced battles that the American army has fougt in. It
> mentions
> > > > > > > Colonel John Boyd the greatest American military strategist and
> > > > > > > student of Sun Tzu's classic.
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.artofwarsuntzu.com/america_experiences_sun_tzu.htm
> >
> > > > > > > On Jan 5, 2:13 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Ha ha! *Caesar was both a proficient tactician and
> statesman!*
> > > Too
> > > > > bad
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > killed him... You on the other hand...are a brilliant tease,
> vino
> > > > > expert,
> > > > > > > > and professional provacateur!
> >
> > > > > > > > Sun Tzu probably didn't exist...a lot like Jesus, but the
> work is
> > > > > > > attributed
> > > > > > > > to him anyway.  Probably a compilation of good general's work
> as
> > > the
> > > > > > > > introduction explains. No matter, our goobers in the
> goverment
> > > should
> > > > > > > > incorporate it on principle.  Wishful thinking again:)
> >
> > > > > > >  > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Clogtowner <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Hi y'all - my ancestors were very familiar with Caesar's
> > > > > methods....
> > > > > > > > > Veni, Vidi, Vici.
> >
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 12:54 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I may be one of the last people on Earth to read this
> thing,
> > > but
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > almost
> > > > > > > > > > through the Introduction section and hope someone else
> has in
> > > our
> > > > > > > group
> > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > already read it...
> >
> > > > > > > > > > What got me to go ahead and read it was this passage that
> > > caught
> > > > > me
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > flip through...
> >
> > > > > > > > > > *"When Sun Tzu wrote, ware had become a dangerous
> business;
> > > the
> > > > > > > recouse
> > > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > other means had failed.  The best policy, he says, is 'to
> > > atack
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > enemy's
> > > > > > > > > > plans'; the next best to disrupt his alliances, for 'to
> > > subdue
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > enemy's
> > > > > > > > > > army without fighting is the acme of skill'. This
> indicates
> > > his
> > > > > > > > > perception
> > > > > > > > > > that war was no longer a regulated pastime, but the
> ultimate
> > > > > > > instrument
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > statecraft."*
> >
> > > > > > > > > > I am personally curious to how similar his methods were
> to
> > > > > Caesar's.
> > > > > > > > >  Caesar
> > > > > > > > > > could'nt have read Sun Tzu due to the supposed time
> period of
> > > its
> > > > > > > > > > creation... but Napoleon did....
> >
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