Hi y'all - I'll bet your aunt has small feet. I've often fancied
trying the foot fetish. It is popular in Japan. Of course, they need
small feet as our regular sized ones would obscure the fun over there.

On Jan 6, 9:18 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks! Ha.  I have the paperback version of Sun Tzu on my desk in plain
> view and can't wait for one of the guys here at work to freak out....it's so
> unlady like to study ...war... geesh:)
>
> Ever get addicted to Mahjong?
>
> My aunt Yumiko is full-blood Japanese and came over in her twenties and the
> culture bug bit me when I was little. She had full silk kimono's and tea
> sets along with a huge pile of art supplies at her house.  She is loaded
> with personal charisma and still today has a sheet of black hair down to her
> hips and a classically flawless Japanese facial structure.  A great beauty.
>  Martial artist she is not, but her mind and way of doing thing is still
> culturally linked to Bushido!  Haven't seen Yumi in few years, but I want to
> tell her I understand more now, how americans and japanese of her generation
> and slightly before feel about each other  - about the great wars. My
> generation is going to have some of the same issues with Arabic Peoples.
> How she deals with it is important:)
>
> Through my sister I was introduced to the Bruce Lee phenomenon and martial
> arts.  It stuck for years and I still love a good viewing of Enter The
> Dragon...cheesy as it is;)  My former grand love affair in college was
> American Chinese with pure blood parents. He is a Kendo expert with a full
> body tattoo, and I just found him on facebook after all these years.  He is
> a fount of all things Chinese because his parents raised him in two
> languages - two cultures.
>
> Envious of you who know Tai Chi ! We are going back to Karate class this
> spring, together, me and my daughter. Sure to get my bum kicked:)
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:06 PM, ornamentalmind 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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> > For more about Sun Tsu, the standard source has some on him.
> >http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Sun+Tsu
> > I read his Art book many years ago. If you appreciate the general
> > motif, any of the classics will further, from the Yellow Emperor to
> > the  I Ching...from the Tao Te Ching to any good book on the game of
> > Go.
>
> > I had some wonderful books on Japanese art and architecture when I was
> > a kid. I was always attracted to their esthetics too.
>
> > I started to study Tai Chi around 1970 and have been an instructor for
> > decades.
> >http://www.taichifoundation.org/Yes, this has its origins in China
> > too.
>
> > I first learned the game of Go in the late 1950s and never played
> > chess after doing so.
>
> >http://www.usgo.org/index.htmlAnd, yes even though it is the national
> > game of Japan, it is believed to have originated at least 3,000 years
> > ago in China.
>
> > I studied 5 element acupuncture, admittedly of Chinese origin for a
> > few years, after having studied Tibetan medicine for a few years too.
> >http://worsleyacupuncture.com/
> >http://www.tibetanmedicine.com/index.html
>
> > It was only after studying acupuncture that I finally groked Taoism.
>
> > The cultures, while intertwined, have enormous differences. This is
> > easily studied.
>
> > On Jan 5, 1:27 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Oh, I believe the trial was real we have to cover our asses to some
> > > degree. I don't personally know of anyone that thinks Bush didn't
> > fabricate
> > > an excuse anymore, but I suppose you can find them up the road in the
> > > closest baptist church. Check out the Great Derangement when you have
> > > time...one link I posted had a free e version.  I would be pissed if I
> > was a
> > > reporter in this era, how the hell would you know if what you see with
> > your
> > > own eyes is real?
>
> > > Pre-emptive strike is only used to effect if it can be successful.. this
> > > Bush whack-job was not in the long perspective was it? It was a bitchslap
> > > that hit the person standing next to the one you wanted to hit,
> > respectively
> > > eh?
>
> >  > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Isparklaria <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > Whether or not shock and awe was out of Sun Tzu or not, Bush made some
> > > > concessions to modern geopolitical realities by giving a shout before
> > > > the attack. The surprise was lost (Sun Tzu uses surprise as one of his
> > > > most important weapons) but we looked a bit better in the eyes of the
> > > > world by offering not to attack if Sadam Hussien would agree to leave
> > > > the country. THat way the whole thing could look like Saddam's fault.
> > > > If he would just leave, we wouldn't need to attack.
>
> > > > Right now I am wondering whether or not the real Saddam did leave the
> > > > country. Perhaps Bush wanted to attack under any circumstances.
> > > > Perhaps the trial was just a show with a fake Saddam and the execution
> > > > also faked. Well this is probably not the case but I rarely refrain
> > > > from questioning the information we are fed.
>
> > > > As for the current sittuation. I don't know if it was planned, but in
> > > > the long run it may very well benefit the neocons. The mess is so bad,
> > > > I don't know if it can be improved much in 4 or 8 years. Soon the
> > > > masses will be ready the typical chicken hawk neocon candidates again.
> > > > Hopefully Obama will be a wise comader in chief by using negotiation,
> > > > embargos, threats of violence, violence and what ever other policies
> > > > he need to use. It is funny to say that violence can make the world a
> > > > more peaceful place, but sometimes the situation calls for it. In my
> > > > opinion even premtion is a good tactic, when used properly. Bushes
> > > > reckless use of preemption has made a good tactic look bad.
>
> > > > On Jan 5, 2:57 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Was "Shock and Awe" exposed, given a shout out, before it was
> > > > implemented? I
> > > > > can't remember.  If so, it would not be as effective as Sun Tzu would
> > use
> > > > > it, which would be much quieter, and with more deciet.  And, it would
> > > > have
> > > > > been effective because we would have know the enemy much better that
> > we
> > > > > did..as results have proven. Ha, I can see military history writers
> > > > slapping
> > > > > the Sun Tzu influence down in the final draft of Bush's story just to
> > > > make
> > > > > the shituation look like it was supposed to happen that way.  Blah!
>
> > > >  > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Isparklaria <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Sun Tzu Lives! Okay so he probably never lived to begin with but
> > this
> > > > > > link goes to a page with some infomation about how much Sun Tzu has
> > > > > > influenced battles that the American army has fougt in. It mentions
> > > > > > Colonel John Boyd the greatest American military strategist and
> > > > > > student of Sun Tzu's classic.
>
> > > > > >http://www.artofwarsuntzu.com/america_experiences_sun_tzu.htm
>
> > > > > > On Jan 5, 2:13 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Ha ha! *Caesar was both a proficient tactician and statesman!*
> > Too
> > > > bad
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > killed him... You on the other hand...are a brilliant tease, vino
> > > > expert,
> > > > > > > and professional provacateur!
>
> > > > > > > Sun Tzu probably didn't exist...a lot like Jesus, but the work is
> > > > > > attributed
> > > > > > > to him anyway.  Probably a compilation of good general's work as
> > the
> > > > > > > introduction explains. No matter, our goobers in the goverment
> > should
> > > > > > > incorporate it on principle.  Wishful thinking again:)
>
> > > > > >  > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Clogtowner <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Hi y'all - my ancestors were very familiar with Caesar's
> > > > methods....
> > > > > > > > Veni, Vidi, Vici.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 12:54 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I may be one of the last people on Earth to read this thing,
> > but
> > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > almost
> > > > > > > > > through the Introduction section and hope someone else has in
> > our
> > > > > > group
> > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > already read it...
>
> > > > > > > > > What got me to go ahead and read it was this passage that
> > caught
> > > > me
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > flip through...
>
> > > > > > > > > *"When Sun Tzu wrote, ware had become a dangerous business;
> > the
> > > > > > recouse
> > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > other means had failed.  The best policy, he says, is 'to
> > atack
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > enemy's
> > > > > > > > > plans'; the next best to disrupt his alliances, for 'to
> > subdue
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > enemy's
> > > > > > > > > army without fighting is the acme of skill'. This indicates
> > his
> > > > > > > > perception
> > > > > > > > > that war was no longer a regulated pastime, but the ultimate
> > > > > > instrument
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > statecraft."*
>
> > > > > > > > > I am personally curious to how similar his methods were to
> > > > Caesar's.
> > > > > > > >  Caesar
> > > > > > > > > could'nt have read Sun Tzu due to the supposed time period of
> > its
> > > > > > > > > creation... but Napoleon did....
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