Rich - Watch your language there. "Fair Tax" is pretty exactly defined in a book of the same name. To eliminate ALL other taxes and go with a sales tax to the final consumer only [no tax on business to business sales or used items] the estimate is somewhere in the low 20's% [don't recall exactly]. No income tax, no inheritance tax, no taxes on anything except sales to final consumer. BillR
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes What is a "fair" tax for all to pay -- % of income and total amount? Real hard numbers, not some vague generalities please. Reason I ask is that I always hear "paying their fair share" etc. and I never hear any of them say what "fair" is. I suppose it depends on where you fall on the political and income spectrum, but that word is un- or ill-defined. I ask my more liberal friends and they launch into long-winded vague responses that don't answer the question, making me think that they don't have one other than "more money." My sense is that people of lower income consume similar or more proportional to their income of tax-provided services than do higher-income people, so I wonder why higher-income people should pay for that. Amounts of money spent on various "programs" targeted at lower-income people for the last, say, 40 years have shown no benefit in reduction of poverty or crime or unstable families, and in fact many of these measures show increases in such problems despite almost continuous economic growth over that time period. Not a lot of incentive to keep paying for those failures. There appear to be a lot of people still standing at the station while the trains keep leaving, and they aren't getting on them. Part of the reason is that it is sorta easy to stay on the platform due to various "programs," and part of it is that there is just a portion of the population that is going to be lazy no-count dumbasses no matter what. Some people have legitimate needs that should be supported, others just don't make an effort to elevate themselves (or take advantages of opportunities to do so). --R andrew strasfogel wrote: > And if you want the less wealthy to pay proportionately more in taxes, then > McCain's your man. > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Rich Thomas < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> "If you want more taxes on people who really make this country run - >> working Americans - to support yet another generation of >> sit-on-your-[butt]-and-collect-a-check slackers, then Obama's your man!" >> >> http://www.philly.com/inquirer/currents/27063739.html >> >> --R >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
