Yeah, overcharging will do the same thing.  I use a little over 2 lbs R134a in 
the Benz, so 4.25 for a dual system should be about right.  Might try 3 and see 
what happens, you can always add more if you need it.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <ka...@striplin.net>
>Sent: Jul 18, 2010 1:49 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
>
>when I rebuilt it last year, I replaced the compressor with a new (not 
>rebuilt) r4, replaced rear expansion valve, replaced orifice tube in the 
>front (I dont recall it being pluggd up).  I also flushed everything 
>while it was torn apart.  I removed the radiator as well to clean out 
>the crap between it and the condenser. I am recovering the refrigerant 
>now and will put in on a vacuum for an hour, then recharge it.  See post 
>just a minute ago.  It did run now, but acts like its overcharged or 
>something.
>
>Peter Frederick wrote:
>> Did you flush the condenser and is it clear of debris between the radiator 
>> and condenser?  Sounds like what my TE does -- high side is too high and 
>> cooling is inadequate with high pressure, and I'm quite certain the plugged 
>> up condenser is the problem.  If it's too hot from no air flow, the freon 
>> will not condense properly, so you have both excessive pressure and lousy 
>> cooling from hot gas instead of liquid at the orifice tube in front.  If the 
>> expansion valve is working correctly, it will be wide open, too, and again 
>> you get high low side pressure from gas expansion rather than liquid boiling 
>> -- somewhat less cooling capacity.
>>
>> You must also evacuate for at least 45 min to remove air and water, 
>> particularly water, from the system -- R134a oils hold much more water than 
>> R12 oils, and it takes some time for them to evaporate and migrate out via 
>> the vacuum pump.  
>>
>> I found that flushing the condenser alone made a huge difference -- if the 
>> system was ever R12, all the mineral oil will tend to collect in the 
>> condenser, coating the inside and greatly reducing heat transfer.
>>
>> Also, was the orifice tube clogged?  If it was, did you put a filter in the 
>> low side hose, and if so, have you replaced it?  Slop in there will also 
>> cause high side excessive pressure, and if the filter is between the fitting 
>> and the compressor, you can have a vacuum between the filter and the 
>> compressor and high pressure "upstream" of the filter!
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>   
>>> From: Mitch Haley <m...@voyager.net>
>>> Sent: Jul 18, 2010 11:42 AM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
>>>
>>> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Its R134. got the spec out of the owners manual, there is no sticker 
>>>> under the hood which is strange.
>>>>       
>>> OK, sight window won't help much then. Was it always R134, or was the 4 1/4 
>>> lb 
>>> the R12 capacity? (remember to use 3/4 as much r134 as r12.
>>>
>>> If it was working somewhat with 2.x in it and hydrolocks with 4.25 in it, 
>>> I'm 
>>> still thinking you want less than 4.25.
>>>
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