i've owned like 20 mercedes cars and i only miss 2: w123 diesel wagon w115 diesel, 4 on the floor
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>wrote: > It is constructive. Do not overly improve something when it is functioning > as intended, or you will burn a big hole in your pocket! I learned this > the hard way. > > AS > 1983 300TD > 1983 300TD > Each charming in its own way, though not perfect. > > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:27 PM, <r...@rhonald.me> wrote: > > > > > I will respond below: > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other > > suspension stuff > > From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > > Date: Sun, December 22, 2013 10:52 am > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > > The word I use is perfectify. > > > > *Andrew, I would appreciate more constructive advice, since you own the > > same car, do you really think this is "fun for me"?.* > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Michael Canfield <slozuk...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > If Martha wouldn't replace it then it doesn't need done.........lol > > > > > > *Martha is not driving my car, I am.* > > > > I didn't catch the part about still sitting level. > > > > *I was saying, the car sits level as compared with any other car.* > > > > Sure does seem like a > > > lot of work for "it's old, it might go bad, new is better". > > > > *I think you missed my point. The point was...if one is installing A, > and > > B &C (rubber parts or other little parts) sit next to it, given the > > mileage, does it make sense to replace C, rather than incurr the same > > (labor cost/time wasted to drive out to the shop) to go back to the same > > area to swap out (c)?* * I have been reading how rubber parts deform, > > crack, etc. If I have to spend for labor, I want to make the most of > it.* > > > > The whole car is a collection of used parts, why pick out ones that > > aren't broken to > > > upgrade to new? > > > > *See above...* > > > > > > > > / It'll be ok, make it drive nice and be safe and call it > > > good. If it ain't broke, don't fix it is the motto around here. > > > Mike > > > > That is what I am after Mike, I am not attempting to "restore" the entire > > car. > > > > > > > On Dec 22, 2013 9:51 AM, "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I would agree, as even my level of nit-pickyness wouldn't mandate > > > > replacing adjusting bolts unless they were coming out for another > job. > > > > *Dan, that is one of the questions I have been trying get answers > > to, if something else was coming out for another job, wouldn't it make > > sense to do it then? I also also asked, how would you tell from driving > > about the bolts?* > > > > > > > > I see a lot of the work specified here as being near overkill. How > > leaky > > > > are the rear struts? > > > > I assumed they leak bad enough because the ride sucks at this > > point. > > > > Is the rear suspension clunking? > > > > Banging and Thumping > > > > If the > > > > self-leveling system is working properly and not bottoming out under > > load > > > > or driving conditions, there is nothing that would indicate > replacement > > > of the major components. > > > > *Well, something needs doing, as I say it rides like a skateboard; Who' > is > > around the DC,VA,MD area? I would be happy to drive somewhere so you can > > here and feel what I am talking about. * > > > > I would add that a number of people have > > > > successfully rebuilt leaky rear struts as well. > > > > *Well, I don't engage in DIY on the car, so rebuilding leaky struts is > not > > happening I guess. * > > > > > > I wonder about the amount of work going into a car of that age. You > > have > > > > to take a step back and ask yourself if it's really necessary. > > > > *I hear what you are saying, but what I see as "necessary" is different > > from the next guy. Not sure what "bottoming out means, but the ride is > > harsh, almost "BANG, THUMP" when riding over bumps and rough pavement. > I > > don't like driving cars where the suspension feels like it is holding > > together by rubber bands! I have loaded it with chairs, tables and > boxes > > and I did not notice that it sagged in the rear. Would this suggest that > > the leveling is working properly? I drove to Baltimore, and to > Kensington, > > MD and it was fine as far as handling. I had suspension work done (4 > > shocks, and ball joints/bushings on the black sedan, and it made a world > of > > difference in the ride.* > > > > > > > > I'm thinking someone's mechanic is looking to buy a new boat.... > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > *I have no control over that decision, but it is really none of my > > business. That is neither here nor there. The car needs work, and I > > don't/can't do it, I am stuck with the car because I paid too much for > it, > > the mechanic who worked on it before I got it sucks, and somebody has to > do > > its so it looks like I don't have a choice in the matter.* > > > > > > On Dec 22, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: > > > > > > > > > Replacing the rear control arms for play? What? That sounds > > > ridiculous. > > > > > Why wouldn't you replace just loose bushings? > > *OK, it is the bearings, and I am just telling you what have on my notes > > from the shop. These would be rear control arm bushings? But there no > > mention there is a problem with them.* > > > > > > > Replace camber adjusting bolts? Unless the car is so rusty they > won't > > > > come out without damage there is no need to replace them. They don't > > wear > > > > out. > > > > OK > > > > > > > > > > I don't know your mechanic but it sounds like he saw you coming and > > is > > > > > taking advantage of your lack of expertise on the subject. > > > > *No, you don't know them so please refrain from passing so much > judgement, > > where are you located, would look my car over?* > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else catch that? > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > On Dec 21, 2013 6:56 PM, <r...@rhonald.me> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> OK, I am getting new Bilstein shocks in front, Sachs-Boge self > > > leveling > > > > >> shocks and Febi accumulators in the rear. The car is still > perfectly > > > > level > > > > >> even when loaded. > > > > >> > > > > >> 1. While the car is up, the shop says the castor adjustors have > wear > > > > >> (small). Does it make sense to do this now? From what I have seen, > > > it > > > > >> relates to the front end alignment. I am getting confused looking > at > > > > >> parts. Is this what I need x 2? > > > > >> > > > > >> * 1163300018 * > > > > >> <http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/1163300018.jpg> > > > Genuine > > > > >> Mercedes <http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html> > > > > >> Alignment Caster/Camber Kit; Front Lower Inner; Eccentric Bolt Kit > > > > >> 2 kits per car. > > > > >> > > > > >> 2. Deciding whether to have the ball joints done at the same time > > > > though > > > > >> there is no inspection reports of wear noted and the car does not > > > > present > > > > >> any tracking issues. Is it possible to check anything when it is > not > > > on > > > > >> the lift? Two boots and two boot kits, correct? Just wanting to > get > > > > >> everything tight again. The black sedan is all done and it made a > > > > world of > > > > >> difference, but...just in time for two huge tree branches to smash > > the > > > > top > > > > >> in the middle. Sighhhh! > > > > >> > > > > >> 3. Where is the hydraulic suspension filter located for the self > > > > leveling > > > > >> suspension in the rear? > > > > >> > > > > >> * 0021845501 * > > > > >> <http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/0021845501.jpg> > > > Genuine > > > > >> Mercedes <http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html> > > > > >> Hydraulic Suspension Oil Filter > > > > >> For models with self-leveling rear suspension. > > > > >> 4. I have to wait on the Rear Control Arms. Told they have some > > > play. > > > > >> Not sure how to feel this when driving. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks > > > > >> > > > > >> R > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> -------- Original Message -------- > > > > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines > > > > >> From: Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> > > > > >> Date: Sat, December 21, 2013 12:38 pm > > > > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > > >> > > > > >> also, that's just hte upper hose. the lower hose might just be > > > available > > > > >> only in tructec or genuine mercedes, so you might have to get the > > > lower > > > > >> one in genuine or just live with the tructec. seems i too have a > > > special > > > > >> agreement with monark to sell you those hoses, but i'd probably > get > > a > > > > >> genuine one if i were you if the tructec actually turns out > chinese > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM, <r...@rhonald.me> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Morning All, I am ready to replace the oil cooler hoses on the > > > wagon. I > > > > >>> was price shopping, and came across these. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://mercedessource.com/store/116-123-617-turbo-diesel-upper-oil-cooler-hose-instructions > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Has anyone had experience with these? The German company? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Looking for recommendations. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thanks > > > > >>> > > > > >>> R > > > > >>> 85 300TD Wagon 230,000 miles > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> _______________________________________ > > > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > >>> > > > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > >>> > > > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european > > > cars* > > > > >> *www.BuyEUROparts.com <http://www.buyeuroparts.com/> < > > http://www.BuyEUROparts.com <http://www.buyeuroparts.com/>>* > > > > >> _______________________________________ > > > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > >> > > > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > >> > > > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________ > > > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > >> > > > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > >> > > > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com <http://www.BuyEUROparts.com>* _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
