Evaluation sounds like the right answer but I wonder about the administration's ability (and criteria) to evaluate teachers.
When I got to Stanford (USAF-sponsored PhD program in 1984) one thing I discovered (which surprised me) was that the professors didn't really know which other professors were good teachers. But the students figured it out pretty quick and they had great word-of-mouth intelligence data on this subject. In most cases (within limits) I shopped for the best teacher vs the best-sounding course description. Scott > -----Original Message----- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan > Penoff > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 10:04 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah! qa9uqavy > > There is nothing cliche about the theories behind teaching methodologies. > I would agree with what you say, but the problem starts at the top - the > administration. ... > Effective this coming January our teachers go on an evaluation > system that determines whether or not they get raises. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Dec 22, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > my kid's english teacher can barely read. abby has to explain what > words > > mean to her as she has a very limited vocabulary. this teacher is bad > > tempered and loses student's tests, then gives them a zero as a grade > when > > she can't find a test. the school administration bends over backwards > to > > protect her against any criticism. > > > > i think the problems are A LOT bigger that whether she is a > contructivist > > or a behaviorist. in fact, i think talk of which a teacher is really > > distracts from much of what the problem really is. cliches just cover > for > > a lack of core competence in many public school teachers > > > > > >> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote: > >> > >> I would also add that Contructivism is the flavor of the month for now. > >> This is the experiential style of learning promoted by Montessori, > Piaget > >> and Dewey. > >> > >> Just like the stock market, the pendulum will swing in the other > direction > >> in the future and Behaviorism (B.F. Skinner, Itard, etc.) will come > back > >> into vogue, no doubt. > >> > >> Dan > >> > >>> On Dec 22, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > >>> > >>> It's by no means "touchy-feely" any more. It's all data driven. I > see > >> kindergarten teachers with 3" binders full of data they have collected > on > >> individual students. It's all about the data now. > >>> > >>> Dan > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Dec 22, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dieselhead wrote: > >>>>> But the prior post about "the 'merkuns didn't want to know.." or > >> something > >>>>> to that effect is not true. FDR installed Deming to make the > 'merkun > >> war > >>>>> production hum. > >>>> > >>>> Loss of Deming/SPC methods seems evident in the education arena. > >> Correct? > >>>> It seems that everything has turned touchy feely instead of discreet > >>>> quantitative. Everything. > >>>> It can all be summarized as religion. We live under totalitarian > >>>> religious-industrial-complex. > >>>> Don't say God. > >>>> mao > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* > > *www.BuyEUROparts.com <http://www.BuyEUROparts.com>* > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
