Yes, thank you for that web link, Jaime.  Bulbs are on order.

Jon


> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Cibies are better than Hellas.  But both are significantly better than
> sealed beams, so its up to you if you want to spend the extra $$.
> 
> If it were me, I'd put Cibies and these bulbs:
> http://store.candlepower.com/64205.html
> 
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Jaime! I looked at a set on Stern's web site the other day and
>> they were lots more. I haven't really done anything since then. Cosmetics
>> are low on the list right now, I want to get all the mechanicals sorted
>> first.
>> 
>> Mitch, are the Hellas functionally the same? The Cibies do not come with
>> lamps, but quality lamps are cheap. Just like you to come up with a cheaper
>> alternative. Thank you!
>> 
>> I've got everything necessary for relay upgrades, too. I was thinking
>> about doing it on the W126, but the Euro headlights do such a great job I
>> don't really feel the need to do relays on it so maybe I'll do them on the
>> W123. And it's got the nice relay box on the inner fender that makes for a
>> really clean installation, too.
>> 
>> On a sort of related note, I was able to determine that the rockers are
>> painted DB-129, which is a dark gray color. Again, this is low on the list,
>> but is a cheap and easy thing that will really enhance the visuals of the
>> car.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I used to buy Hellas in the 1980s, they were about $20 each when the
>> Cibies were
>>> $25. Now they're $30 with bulb and free shipping.
>>> E-Code lamps were far better than DOT, I bought Marchal once for a Saab
>> 900 when
>>> they were $5 cheaper than 6x8 Hella and didn't notice any difference.
>>> Do Cibies still come with 55/60W bulbs?
>>> 
>>> Mitch.
>>> 
>>>> On November 17, 2016 at 8:37 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>> 
>>>> 7" Cibies are available from Amazon:
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/
>> B008DQV88Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479389808&sr=8-1&keywords=cibie+082440
>>>> 
>>>> The price has gone up a bit, but its cheaper than other sources.
>>>> 
>>>> Jaime
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Jon,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where did you get your Cibie headlamps, and what did they cost, if I
>> might
>>>>> ask?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fluid filmed? Is this for the undercarriage?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stanadyne is good stuff, I prefer RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst, but
>> I've
>>>>> used both.  After a first dose of one bottle you only need an ounce per
>>>>> tank fill. It does wonderful things for lubricity and isn't expensive,
>>>>> around $10-$11/bottle around here, which is 12 tanks of fuel, about a
>> buck
>>>>> a tank.  I can find it on the shelf at PepBoys for that, which is
>> cheaper
>>>>> than buying a case online.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I love Desert Red, especially with a Palimino interior.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wrenching on these older cars is far more satisfying than working on
>> the
>>>>> later stuff. It's simple, things are relatively easy to access and
>> there's
>>>>> no dealing with electronics, it's all analog.  I am really enjoying
>> working
>>>>> on my W123 and W126, almost daily looking for reasons to tinker rather
>> than
>>>>> avoid like with the W140s...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Jon Agne <jonag...@gwi.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bravo!  I love days like that!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There really is nothing quite so enjoyable than wrenching on my W123
>> and
>>>>> W108.  Ive just gotten Karl back from the paint shop after Dimitri
>> worked
>>>>> some of his welding magic on my right rear quarter panel.  I had the
>> whole
>>>>> car sprayed in a very nice “driver” job (against Dimitri’s wishes) in
>> the
>>>>> original color “Desert Red.”  It looks fantastic.  The car had 2 colors
>>>>> before due to a incident with a motorcycle 25 years ago on that right
>> rear
>>>>> quarter, and the original paint was so thin you could see primer in
>> places.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve just installed new Cibie headlamps (kept the original wattage on
>>>>> the bulbs) and I cannot believe the difference.  Today, I’ll replace
>> the
>>>>> left fog light (corroded reflector) with one I purchased on eBay.  The
>>>>> windshield guy is also coming today to replace the original and the
>> trunk
>>>>> seal.  Yes, I have the MB seals….I learned that lesson a long time ago.
>>>>> Thank you, Jaime.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later this week I’ll get the car fluid filmed (in all the right
>>>>> places).  I used to do this, but my friend has a gun and shoots out of
>> a
>>>>> 5-gallon can with the car on a lift.  Painless!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Diesel Purge is great stuff.  I always fill the new fuel filter with
>> it
>>>>> because I never think to get diesel in advance of working on the car.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It’s been warm so far this year, but cold is just around the corner.
>> I
>>>>> am going to prep small bottles of Howes Diesel Conditioner for winter
>> use.
>>>>> Thinking of switching to Stanadyne after this bottle is exhausted
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Happy Wrenching!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Got home from work, took care of some domestic stuff, starting the
>> oil
>>>>> sucker before I began.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Changed oil (Delo 400 LE 15W40) and installed a Mann oil filter.
>> There
>>>>> was a spare Mann filter with the car, but when I took it out of the
>> box and
>>>>> inspected it the bottom rolled edge of the metal part was rusted or
>>>>> corroded.  No way I was putting that into the engine, so my shelf spare
>>>>> went in.  Always good to have a spare!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Removed the air cleaner and found one of the buffers broken.  The
>> metal
>>>>> cups/heat shields were all still there, which was nice to see.  I used
>> one
>>>>> of my $6.00 M119 air cleaner buffers (MB part #1039880111, $6.00 list)
>> that
>>>>> I suspected were the same and it was.  It’s possible they’re slight
>>>>> slightly taller than the W123 part, but that would be the only
>> difference.
>>>>> Someone had already trimmed the inlet elbow edge off, so the sealing
>> ring
>>>>> came out easy and was still nice and pliable, so no need to replace it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With the air cleaner out, I pulled the banjo bolt on the back of the
>>>>> intake out and cleaned it.  It was pretty clear with just a little bit
>> of
>>>>> crud in it. This car will stand up on it’s hind legs without hardly any
>>>>> effort so I’m sure the line isn’t plugged, but I’ll check it this
>> weekend
>>>>> when I have more time.  I also noticed the ALDA is still sealed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> O-ring on the air cleaner drain tube could stand to be replaced -
>> it’s
>>>>> NLA, but the oil dipstick O-ring is the same size and it’s still
>>>>> available.  Another item for the parts list to call in tomorrow.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Changed the two O-rings on the filter tube (thanks, Curley!) and got
>>>>> four quarts in through the filter housing.  Put the new Mann filter in
>> and
>>>>> closed things up.  Got another two quarts into it to hit the mid point
>> of
>>>>> the dipstick and all was well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cleaned the battery terminals and ground cable.  Put some protective
>>>>> goo on the terminals.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Took it for a quick ride up to Advance Auto to pick up an online
>> order
>>>>> for some rust neutralizer I had sitting there.  Ran great with no
>> problems.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Some observations:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Vacuum levers on the throttle linkage on the top of the valve cover
>> are
>>>>> nearly worn away.  I wonder if they’re still available?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cigar hose is cracked right near where it connects to the filter
>>>>> housing.  Not leaking, but the hose is pretty hard.  Another parts
>> order
>>>>> item.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Would like to find one of the “flat” one piece breather tubes to
>>>>> replace the awful conglomeration of tubes, rubber elbows, clamps, etc.
>> that
>>>>> are in place now.  I remember well when MB came out with the one piece
>> flat
>>>>> rubber tube - it’s still in the EPC but doesn’t appear to be available
>> any
>>>>> longer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Spring for holding power steering filter in place is gone.  Another
>>>>> item for the morning’s parts order.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just got a can of Diesel Purge tonight in UPS.  I was going to do a
>>>>> purge and fuel filters tomorrow, but with the cigar hose in
>> questionable
>>>>> condition I may wait until I have the new hose.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rockers are faded.  I’m wondering what color paint they were?  They
>>>>> weren’t black, more of a dark gray.  Easy/cheap fix and makes it look
>> much
>>>>> nicer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Enough for the day.  Time to play with Kitty and turn in.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dan
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