Cibies are better than Hellas. But both are significantly better than sealed beams, so its up to you if you want to spend the extra $$.
If it were me, I'd put Cibies and these bulbs: http://store.candlepower.com/64205.html Jaime On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks, Jaime! I looked at a set on Stern's web site the other day and > they were lots more. I haven't really done anything since then. Cosmetics > are low on the list right now, I want to get all the mechanicals sorted > first. > > Mitch, are the Hellas functionally the same? The Cibies do not come with > lamps, but quality lamps are cheap. Just like you to come up with a cheaper > alternative. Thank you! > > I've got everything necessary for relay upgrades, too. I was thinking > about doing it on the W126, but the Euro headlights do such a great job I > don't really feel the need to do relays on it so maybe I'll do them on the > W123. And it's got the nice relay box on the inner fender that makes for a > really clean installation, too. > > On a sort of related note, I was able to determine that the rockers are > painted DB-129, which is a dark gray color. Again, this is low on the list, > but is a cheap and easy thing that will really enhance the visuals of the > car. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Nov 17, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I used to buy Hellas in the 1980s, they were about $20 each when the > Cibies were > > $25. Now they're $30 with bulb and free shipping. > > E-Code lamps were far better than DOT, I bought Marchal once for a Saab > 900 when > > they were $5 cheaper than 6x8 Hella and didn't notice any difference. > > Do Cibies still come with 55/60W bulbs? > > > > Mitch. > > > >> On November 17, 2016 at 8:37 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hi Dan, > >> > >> 7" Cibies are available from Amazon: > >> https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/ > B008DQV88Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479389808&sr=8-1&keywords=cibie+082440 > >> > >> The price has gone up a bit, but its cheaper than other sources. > >> > >> Jaime > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Jon, > >>> > >>> Where did you get your Cibie headlamps, and what did they cost, if I > might > >>> ask? > >>> > >>> Fluid filmed? Is this for the undercarriage? > >>> > >>> Stanadyne is good stuff, I prefer RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst, but > I've > >>> used both. After a first dose of one bottle you only need an ounce per > >>> tank fill. It does wonderful things for lubricity and isn't expensive, > >>> around $10-$11/bottle around here, which is 12 tanks of fuel, about a > buck > >>> a tank. I can find it on the shelf at PepBoys for that, which is > cheaper > >>> than buying a case online. > >>> > >>> I love Desert Red, especially with a Palimino interior. > >>> > >>> Wrenching on these older cars is far more satisfying than working on > the > >>> later stuff. It's simple, things are relatively easy to access and > there's > >>> no dealing with electronics, it's all analog. I am really enjoying > working > >>> on my W123 and W126, almost daily looking for reasons to tinker rather > than > >>> avoid like with the W140s... > >>> > >>> Dan > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Jon Agne <jonag...@gwi.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Bravo! I love days like that! > >>>> > >>>> There really is nothing quite so enjoyable than wrenching on my W123 > and > >>> W108. Ive just gotten Karl back from the paint shop after Dimitri > worked > >>> some of his welding magic on my right rear quarter panel. I had the > whole > >>> car sprayed in a very nice “driver” job (against Dimitri’s wishes) in > the > >>> original color “Desert Red.” It looks fantastic. The car had 2 colors > >>> before due to a incident with a motorcycle 25 years ago on that right > rear > >>> quarter, and the original paint was so thin you could see primer in > places. > >>>> > >>>> I’ve just installed new Cibie headlamps (kept the original wattage on > >>> the bulbs) and I cannot believe the difference. Today, I’ll replace > the > >>> left fog light (corroded reflector) with one I purchased on eBay. The > >>> windshield guy is also coming today to replace the original and the > trunk > >>> seal. Yes, I have the MB seals….I learned that lesson a long time ago. > >>> Thank you, Jaime. > >>>> > >>>> Later this week I’ll get the car fluid filmed (in all the right > >>> places). I used to do this, but my friend has a gun and shoots out of > a > >>> 5-gallon can with the car on a lift. Painless!!! > >>>> > >>>> Diesel Purge is great stuff. I always fill the new fuel filter with > it > >>> because I never think to get diesel in advance of working on the car. > >>>> > >>>> It’s been warm so far this year, but cold is just around the corner. > I > >>> am going to prep small bottles of Howes Diesel Conditioner for winter > use. > >>> Thinking of switching to Stanadyne after this bottle is exhausted > >>>> > >>>> Happy Wrenching! > >>>> > >>>> Jon > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Got home from work, took care of some domestic stuff, starting the > oil > >>> sucker before I began. > >>>>> > >>>>> Changed oil (Delo 400 LE 15W40) and installed a Mann oil filter. > There > >>> was a spare Mann filter with the car, but when I took it out of the > box and > >>> inspected it the bottom rolled edge of the metal part was rusted or > >>> corroded. No way I was putting that into the engine, so my shelf spare > >>> went in. Always good to have a spare! > >>>>> > >>>>> Removed the air cleaner and found one of the buffers broken. The > metal > >>> cups/heat shields were all still there, which was nice to see. I used > one > >>> of my $6.00 M119 air cleaner buffers (MB part #1039880111, $6.00 list) > that > >>> I suspected were the same and it was. It’s possible they’re slight > >>> slightly taller than the W123 part, but that would be the only > difference. > >>> Someone had already trimmed the inlet elbow edge off, so the sealing > ring > >>> came out easy and was still nice and pliable, so no need to replace it. > >>>>> > >>>>> With the air cleaner out, I pulled the banjo bolt on the back of the > >>> intake out and cleaned it. It was pretty clear with just a little bit > of > >>> crud in it. This car will stand up on it’s hind legs without hardly any > >>> effort so I’m sure the line isn’t plugged, but I’ll check it this > weekend > >>> when I have more time. I also noticed the ALDA is still sealed. > >>>>> > >>>>> O-ring on the air cleaner drain tube could stand to be replaced - > it’s > >>> NLA, but the oil dipstick O-ring is the same size and it’s still > >>> available. Another item for the parts list to call in tomorrow. > >>>>> > >>>>> Changed the two O-rings on the filter tube (thanks, Curley!) and got > >>> four quarts in through the filter housing. Put the new Mann filter in > and > >>> closed things up. Got another two quarts into it to hit the mid point > of > >>> the dipstick and all was well. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cleaned the battery terminals and ground cable. Put some protective > >>> goo on the terminals. > >>>>> > >>>>> Took it for a quick ride up to Advance Auto to pick up an online > order > >>> for some rust neutralizer I had sitting there. Ran great with no > problems. > >>>>> > >>>>> Some observations: > >>>>> > >>>>> Vacuum levers on the throttle linkage on the top of the valve cover > are > >>> nearly worn away. I wonder if they’re still available? > >>>>> > >>>>> Cigar hose is cracked right near where it connects to the filter > >>> housing. Not leaking, but the hose is pretty hard. Another parts > order > >>> item. > >>>>> > >>>>> Would like to find one of the “flat” one piece breather tubes to > >>> replace the awful conglomeration of tubes, rubber elbows, clamps, etc. > that > >>> are in place now. I remember well when MB came out with the one piece > flat > >>> rubber tube - it’s still in the EPC but doesn’t appear to be available > any > >>> longer. > >>>>> > >>>>> Spring for holding power steering filter in place is gone. Another > >>> item for the morning’s parts order. > >>>>> > >>>>> Just got a can of Diesel Purge tonight in UPS. I was going to do a > >>> purge and fuel filters tomorrow, but with the cigar hose in > questionable > >>> condition I may wait until I have the new hose. > >>>>> > >>>>> Rockers are faded. I’m wondering what color paint they were? They > >>> weren’t black, more of a dark gray. Easy/cheap fix and makes it look > much > >>> nicer. > >>>>> > >>>>> Enough for the day. Time to play with Kitty and turn in. > >>>>> > >>>>> Dan > >>>>> _______________________________________ > >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>>> > >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>>> > >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jaime Kopchinski > >> http://www.jaimekop.com/ > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com