Hella big round headlights (110,114/5, 123) are GREAT. I started using them in about 1974. Even one per vehicle helps a lot. The advantage of the second is negligible. On many cars and vans, I put one on the right to save money. With normal wattage, no relay needed. I'd not put a frog light on my MB. Boach or Hella for me!

Dan--- via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
November 17, 2016 at 8:34 AM
Thanks, Jaime! I looked at a set on Stern's web site the other day and they were lots more. I haven't really done anything since then. Cosmetics are low on the list right now, I want to get all the mechanicals sorted first.

Mitch, are the Hellas functionally the same? The Cibies do not come with lamps, but quality lamps are cheap. Just like you to come up with a cheaper alternative. Thank you!

I've got everything necessary for relay upgrades, too. I was thinking about doing it on the W126, but the Euro headlights do such a great job I don't really feel the need to do relays on it so maybe I'll do them on the W123. And it's got the nice relay box on the inner fender that makes for a really clean installation, too.

On a sort of related note, I was able to determine that the rockers are painted DB-129, which is a dark gray color. Again, this is low on the list, but is a cheap and easy thing that will really enhance the visuals of the car.

Dan

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November 17, 2016 at 8:11 AM
I used to buy Hellas in the 1980s, they were about $20 each when the Cibies were
$25. Now they're $30 with bulb and free shipping.
E-Code lamps were far better than DOT, I bought Marchal once for a Saab 900 when
they were $5 cheaper than 6x8 Hella and didn't notice any difference.
Do Cibies still come with 55/60W bulbs?

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November 17, 2016 at 7:37 AM
Hi Dan,

7" Cibies are available from Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479389808&sr=8-1&keywords=cibie+082440

The price has gone up a bit, but its cheaper than other sources.

Jaime


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Dan--- via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
November 16, 2016 at 8:49 AM
Jon,

Where did you get your Cibie headlamps, and what did they cost, if I might ask?

Fluid filmed? Is this for the undercarriage?

Stanadyne is good stuff, I prefer RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst, but I've used both. After a first dose of one bottle you only need an ounce per tank fill. It does wonderful things for lubricity and isn't expensive, around $10-$11/bottle around here, which is 12 tanks of fuel, about a buck a tank. I can find it on the shelf at PepBoys for that, which is cheaper than buying a case online.

I love Desert Red, especially with a Palimino interior.

Wrenching on these older cars is far more satisfying than working on the later stuff. It's simple, things are relatively easy to access and there's no dealing with electronics, it's all analog. I am really enjoying working on my W123 and W126, almost daily looking for reasons to tinker rather than avoid like with the W140s...

Dan

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November 16, 2016 at 7:23 AM
Bravo! I love days like that!

There really is nothing quite so enjoyable than wrenching on my W123 and W108. Ive just gotten Karl back from the paint shop after Dimitri worked some of his welding magic on my right rear quarter panel. I had the whole car sprayed in a very nice “driver” job (against Dimitri’s wishes) in the original color “Desert Red.” It looks fantastic. The car had 2 colors before due to a incident with a motorcycle 25 years ago on that right rear quarter, and the original paint was so thin you could see primer in places.

I’ve just installed new Cibie headlamps (kept the original wattage on the bulbs) and I cannot believe the difference. Today, I’ll replace the left fog light (corroded reflector) with one I purchased on eBay. The windshield guy is also coming today to replace the original and the trunk seal. Yes, I have the MB seals….I learned that lesson a long time ago. Thank you, Jaime.

Later this week I’ll get the car fluid filmed (in all the right places). I used to do this, but my friend has a gun and shoots out of a 5-gallon can with the car on a lift. Painless!!!

Diesel Purge is great stuff. I always fill the new fuel filter with it because I never think to get diesel in advance of working on the car.

It’s been warm so far this year, but cold is just around the corner. I am going to prep small bottles of Howes Diesel Conditioner for winter use. Thinking of switching to Stanadyne after this bottle is exhausted

Happy Wrenching!

Jon




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