That wouldn’t happen now days. They would pull back to the gate and throw you off.
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > I was flying business class to Amsterdam on KLM, a regular gig when we went > to the Middle East or Africa, as KLM and El Al were the only airlines we were > allowed to fly for security reasons. Anyway, I’m on the upper deck of a > 747-400 and my seat back breaks before we take off. We’ve already pushed back > and are taxiing, so I alert the cabin crew to my predicament and they’re all > worked up, trying to figure out where they’re going to seat me in an aircraft > that is full. I told them I wasn’t going to coach (I was hoping for a first > class bump!) They got on the intercom and conferred for a minute, then a crew > member came and got me and took me into the crew’s bunkroom. Since it was a > flight to Europe there was only one crew on board, meaning the crew’s > bunkroom wasn’t being used. > > So I got to fly to Amsterdam in a really nice private, albeit cramped, room. > Nice bed and small reclining chair to sit in. > > -D > > >> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:22 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> Aircrew is strictly limited to FAA ruled "duty time" for each day. FAA >> mandates how much "duty time" can be done which is not just "flight time at >> the controls". Every airline worldwide has to meet FAA regulations with few >> exceptions in order to operate in airline flight corridors and controlled >> flight altitudes. >> >> Common practice for long haul international or over ocean flights is to fly >> with two full crews. Unknown to most passengers, large airliners have crew >> rest areas which are not public access, with bunks and kitchen. >> >> As far as sleeping at the controls and falling against the "stick"..... >> rules state if you occupy a command seat, you have to have shoulder harness >> and seat belt on. Shoulder harness has auto retract and tension, so if you >> fall forward, it will kick in and "arrest" you. >> >> I contend the most dangerous part of airline travel is the drive to the >> airport. Your personal view may vary. >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:36 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> The crews are each three people on the 380. So there are six officers >>> aboard the long haul flights. On Qantas anyway. >>> >>> There is considerable variation in crew training and staffing levels >>> between airlines. I am sure other airlines fly similar routes with less >>> manpower. >>> >>> Sleeping at the stick is never going to be a good look. Reminds me of the >>> Payne Stewart crash: >>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 12:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>>> What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during >>>> landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting >>>> handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a >>>> crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. >>>> >>>>> On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >>>>> So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to >>> worry >>>>> about? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < >>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One >>>> handles >>>>>> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps >>> in >>>> the >>>>>> middle. >>>>>> >>>>>> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight >>>> deck >>>>>> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or >>>>>> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < >>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 >>>>>>> "arche...@embarqmail.com" <arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pilot asleep at controls of 747. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gerry wrote: >>>>>>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the >>>>>>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? >>>> Play >>>>>>> games? 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