Doubt it. Not for a business class passenger. Business and first class passengers are the ones that pay the bills. Kick me off the flight? You just dropped $2k in airfare.
-D > On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > That wouldn’t happen now days. They would pull back to the gate and throw you > off. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 26, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> I was flying business class to Amsterdam on KLM, a regular gig when we went >> to the Middle East or Africa, as KLM and El Al were the only airlines we >> were allowed to fly for security reasons. Anyway, I’m on the upper deck of a >> 747-400 and my seat back breaks before we take off. We’ve already pushed >> back and are taxiing, so I alert the cabin crew to my predicament and >> they’re all worked up, trying to figure out where they’re going to seat me >> in an aircraft that is full. I told them I wasn’t going to coach (I was >> hoping for a first class bump!) They got on the intercom and conferred for a >> minute, then a crew member came and got me and took me into the crew’s >> bunkroom. Since it was a flight to Europe there was only one crew on board, >> meaning the crew’s bunkroom wasn’t being used. >> >> So I got to fly to Amsterdam in a really nice private, albeit cramped, room. >> Nice bed and small reclining chair to sit in. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:22 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Aircrew is strictly limited to FAA ruled "duty time" for each day. FAA >>> mandates how much "duty time" can be done which is not just "flight time at >>> the controls". Every airline worldwide has to meet FAA regulations with few >>> exceptions in order to operate in airline flight corridors and controlled >>> flight altitudes. >>> >>> Common practice for long haul international or over ocean flights is to fly >>> with two full crews. Unknown to most passengers, large airliners have crew >>> rest areas which are not public access, with bunks and kitchen. >>> >>> As far as sleeping at the controls and falling against the "stick"..... >>> rules state if you occupy a command seat, you have to have shoulder harness >>> and seat belt on. Shoulder harness has auto retract and tension, so if you >>> fall forward, it will kick in and "arrest" you. >>> >>> I contend the most dangerous part of airline travel is the drive to the >>> airport. Your personal view may vary. >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:36 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The crews are each three people on the 380. So there are six officers >>>> aboard the long haul flights. On Qantas anyway. >>>> >>>> There is considerable variation in crew training and staffing levels >>>> between airlines. I am sure other airlines fly similar routes with less >>>> manpower. >>>> >>>> Sleeping at the stick is never going to be a good look. Reminds me of the >>>> Payne Stewart crash: >>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 12:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during >>>>> landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting >>>>> handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a >>>>> crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. >>>>> >>>>>> On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >>>>>> So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to >>>> worry >>>>>> about? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < >>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One >>>>> handles >>>>>>> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps >>>> in >>>>> the >>>>>>> middle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight >>>>> deck >>>>>>> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or >>>>>>> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < >>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 >>>>>>>> "arche...@embarqmail.com" <arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pilot asleep at controls of 747. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gerry wrote: >>>>>>>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the >>>>>>>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? >>>>> Play >>>>>>>> games? 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