Broken seats are not all that uncommon and they MUST reseat you no matter how trivial the flaw may seem.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 6:10 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I was flying business class to Amsterdam on KLM, a regular gig when we > went to the Middle East or Africa, as KLM and El Al were the only airlines > we were allowed to fly for security reasons. Anyway, I’m on the upper deck > of a 747-400 and my seat back breaks before we take off. We’ve already > pushed back and are taxiing, so I alert the cabin crew to my predicament > and they’re all worked up, trying to figure out where they’re going to seat > me in an aircraft that is full. I told them I wasn’t going to coach (I was > hoping for a first class bump!) They got on the intercom and conferred for > a minute, then a crew member came and got me and took me into the crew’s > bunkroom. Since it was a flight to Europe there was only one crew on board, > meaning the crew’s bunkroom wasn’t being used. > > So I got to fly to Amsterdam in a really nice private, albeit cramped, > room. Nice bed and small reclining chair to sit in. > > -D > > > > On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:22 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > > Aircrew is strictly limited to FAA ruled "duty time" for each day. FAA > > mandates how much "duty time" can be done which is not just "flight time > at > > the controls". Every airline worldwide has to meet FAA regulations with > few > > exceptions in order to operate in airline flight corridors and controlled > > flight altitudes. > > > > Common practice for long haul international or over ocean flights is to > fly > > with two full crews. Unknown to most passengers, large airliners have > crew > > rest areas which are not public access, with bunks and kitchen. > > > > As far as sleeping at the controls and falling against the "stick"..... > > rules state if you occupy a command seat, you have to have shoulder > harness > > and seat belt on. Shoulder harness has auto retract and tension, so if > you > > fall forward, it will kick in and "arrest" you. > > > > I contend the most dangerous part of airline travel is the drive to the > > airport. Your personal view may vary. > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:36 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> The crews are each three people on the 380. So there are six officers > >> aboard the long haul flights. On Qantas anyway. > >> > >> There is considerable variation in crew training and staffing levels > >> between airlines. I am sure other airlines fly similar routes with less > >> manpower. > >> > >> Sleeping at the stick is never going to be a good look. Reminds me of > the > >> Payne Stewart crash: > >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 12:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during > >>> landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting > >>> handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a > >>> crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. > >>> > >>> On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >>>> So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to > >> worry > >>>> about? > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One > >>> handles > >>>>> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps > >> in > >>> the > >>>>> middle. > >>>>> > >>>>> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the > flight > >>> deck > >>>>> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or > >>>>> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < > >>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 > >>>>>> "arche...@embarqmail.com" <arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Gerry wrote: > >>>>>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the > >>>>>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? > >>> Play > >>>>>> games? 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