I think most car parts are mild steel - not tempered or hardened, hence no issue heating them.
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 9:55 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I talked with a friend who is really into machining and welding about that > concern, he assured me it is not. Heating to a nice red glow and then > allowing it to cool back to room temperature, with no quenching, is not > going to change the character or temper of that steel. Dimitri may also > have some knowledge here. > > The bigger danger is the fire hazard and the risk of burning your hands, > both usually succumb to common sense precautions. > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > Mon Nov 04 10:40:28 EST 2019 MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>: > > > That would make a difference in the removal. > > > > The only problem I have with heating a significant > > amount of a structural member is the question of > > what it does to the temper of the metal and hence > > the strength. I'd hate to be going around a corner > > at speed and have the piece give away. May look > > cool in a movie but.... > > > > Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > > > >> 124 lower ball joints have the rim on the opposite side as a 123, so > that > >> method won't work because the stem is in the way and needs to be dealt > >> with. I usually cut off the stem with the saw-z-all in order to get > >> clearance to fit the press or to make a flat surface to pound on. > Leaving > >> the control arm mounted in the car means not much clearance between > fender > >> and ball joint to swing a hammer. The first set I did, I cut them off > and > >> hammered them out, that was a lot of work. Second set, rigged up > adapters > >> to press them out after cutting off stem and heated up the arm / joint > with > >> a torch, they pressed out pretty easy. > >> ------------- > >> Max > >> Charleston SC > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 8:40 AM MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> They must be in there a lot tighter then in the > >>> 123. I knocked the ball joints out of mine with > >>> two hammers very easily. Put the ball of one > >>> hammer on the bottom of the ball joint and then > >>> hit the flat head of that hammer with a bigger > >>> one. The round ball end supposedly collapses the > >>> outside of joint and causes it to pull away from > >>> the socket it sits in and the whole thing pops > >>> right out with a few good hefty whacks. > >>> > >>> I watched the tech do that with a set of ball > >>> joints on another 123 so I knew it worked for them. > >>> > >>> Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > >>> > >>>> The hazard fraught tool is a big C clamp, just one arm. The proper > shop > >>>> > >>> tool is a complete 'O', like two C clamps that share one screw, so it > is > >>> very strong. > >>> > >>>> I think I found a place that sold aftermarket version once, but mucho > >>>> > >>> dinero. I'll check my book marks. > >>> > >>>> Removal is much easier with generous application of the blue wrench, > >>>> > >>> until the end of the control arm is just glowing dull red, and then > hammer > >>> that sucker right out. > >>> > >>>> Max Dillon > >>>> Charleston SC > >>>> > >>>> Sat Nov 02 17:41:36 EDT 2019 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > >>>> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>: > >>> > >>>>> I am getting ready to do ball joints on a 201. I have done a 124 > before > >>>>> using the HF tool and some sections of cast iron pipe connections for > >>>>> adapters. With this setup I got it done on the 124 years ago but it > was > >>>>> a pain in the ass. I have located the pipe pieces I used but in the > >>>>> move I have no idea where the HF ball joint tool went to. I figure > this > >>>>> would be a good time to just get the proper one. So, with that said, > >>>>> what is the proper tool? Car has about 180K on it, should I just pull > >>>>> the control arms and replace the bushings also? 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