Credit report, Karl. Thank you. Can you explain why the number of deaths is
increasing at such an alarming rate. I thought that the new cases were from
restaurants and other large event Gatherings. Is it possible to generalize?

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 5:47 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes we can shift a lot of resources around. But you have to realize it
> means nothing else is getting done. All elective surgeries are cancelled
> until further notice. All of our anesthesia residents have been temporarily
> assigned to ICUs, along with every other qualified fellow (cardiology etc)
> in the institution. Currently about 310 of our 900 total beds are occupied
> by covid patients, and we are increasing by 15-20 covid patients per day.
> The peak in April was 160. Not looking good. Some hospitals in the state
> are something like 80-90% covid patients, e.g. El Centro.
>
> The limit on hospital beds is more often a staffing limit than a physical
> limit. It isnt like there is a huge pool of RNs out there available to hire
> to staff an extra 20 beds every day. This is particularly true of ICU
> nurses. Most nurses dont work in ICUs. Respiratory therapists are also in
> high demand. Overtime is very expensive.
>
> If you come into the ER for any non-covid reason, your care will be
> impacted, including the ambulance taking you to a distant facility because
> the ER where you would like to be taken is closed.
>
> At any rate we will do what we have to do. Most of the fear mongering is
> media driven - not hospitals or providers. Our hospital is normally full.
> Giving up over 300 beds is a big deal. But no one is in the parking lot -
> yet.
>
> Hospitals are only "businesses" in the sense that they are not publically
> supported, so they run as nonprofits typically. They have to watch the
> bottom line or they can run out of cash quickly. If they were not run as
> businesses, we would have to pay for them with tax money.
>
> Daily new cases seem to have peaked here now, but hospitalizations tend to
> lag the new cases by a week or two. So we could easily be over 400 patients
> in hospital before this wave subsides. We also have no idea why we are even
> in a wave, as we remain mostly locked down, but there are lots of people in
> high density housing working essential jobs who are likely contributing,
> and apparently that is enough to cause a spike.
>
> In other news, some details of the botched CDC testing fiasco. What a
> cluster this turned out to be when they could have simply bought some tests
> from Thailand or Korea. A real  "perfect is the enemy of good" scenario:
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-covid/2020/12/25/c2b418ae-4206-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F2de0633%2F5fe766a79d2fda0efb94a093%2F5e2922849bbc0f632602b279%2F8%2F68%2F5fe766a79d2fda0efb94a093
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 11:41 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > My understanding of the hospital bed "shortage" is that hospitals are
> > businesses, and having an empty bed "just because" is a money losing
> > proposition.  Thus the number of available beds is set based on demand
> and
> > forecasted demand.  Chicken Little crying about the sky is falling
> because
> > hospital beds are nearly full / nearly at capacity is deceptive
> > fear-mongering.  When the demand exists, hospitals will meet it.  Back at
> > the start of this panic, the US. Navy hospital ships were mobilized, one
> to
> > each coast, and they were not used to treat Wuhan Red Death patients.
> That
> > would be a money losing proposition for the hospitals, so no one should
> be
> > surprised.
> > -------------
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 11:12 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > >  You do bring up a good point about hospitals being hit with shortages
> > > again. You'd have thought that having the summer off they'd have
> stocked
> > up
> > > on PPE. I've certainly stocked us up on cleaners, TP and paper towels.
> > I've
> > > got meat and frozen veg laid in assuming we're going to be locked down
> > > starting at the first of the year.
> > > Apparently hospital administrators don't think ahead. Angie has laid
> in a
> > > year's worth (!) of masks, rubber gloves and cleaner for her practice
> > > although I expect her to be closed down after the holidays.
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > >     On Sunday, December 20, 2020, 6:11:39 PM EST, Clay Monroe via
> > Mercedes
> > > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Short term success in this plague is no measure of long term
> > > effectiveness.
> > >
> > > There are small victories that have not withstood the test of time.
> > > Kauai, HI shut itself off for seven months and now is being hard hit by
> > > infections.  AK also thought it had a handle, but that early control
> was
> > > shown to be immune to the reality of disease spread.  New Zealand also
> > > though they had mastered it, but keeps getting hit while being sealed
> off
> > > from the world.  And the list of places that followed the narrative of
> > > plague control are now hotbeds.
> > >
> > > The West Coast is full of sheeple who would willingly follow mandates
> and
> > > narrative.  Yet that willingness to isolate and mask has not translated
> > > into a reduction.  Medical centers are filled to the gills.  Maybe the
> > > agenda would have been more effective had historical data been used to
> > plan
> > > for the inevitable secondary and tertiary waves that would truly tax
> and
> > be
> > > greater yet than initial contagion.  The public was shown those trends
> as
> > > they were trotted out by talking heads and officials as a means to
> > convince
> > > the populace that such as thing as “flatten the curve”.  Which really
> > just
> > > meant to prolong the disease until an effective response could be
> > > mustered.
> > >
> > > Today we are witnessing just what a sham the flat curve was.  Nobody
> > seems
> > > to have bulked up a response to better handle the coming surge.  Where
> > are
> > > the bigger treatment centers and beds?  Who has all the N95 masking,
> > > gloves, gowns that the current wave requires?  How many of the laid off
> > > medical staff are being repurposed to care for both the infected as
> well
> > as
> > > those requiring normal care?  The disease has been kept at a simmer…
> low
> > > and slow.  That seems to point to an effort to keep it a crisis, not to
> > > effectuate a reliable treatment or cure.
> > >
> > > Now the discussion is how to triage.  Since the pooch was screwed, we
> > will
> > > now be looking at providing treatment for those who can be saved
> instead
> > of
> > > the heroics for all methods used over the last ten months.  Today,
> > doctors
> > > and administrators really are deciding whose Granny gets to live and
> who
> > > they will be sending to the morgue.  An acceptance of the reality of
> > > lacking required resources, proper treatments, true dimensions of the
> > > transmission, and hubris those in charge are guilty of.  May have been
> > more
> > > realistic to have allowed the thing to burn out and achieve herd
> immunity
> > > naturally.  That is what happens in Africa with Ebola, no matter how
> much
> > > prancing around WHO/UN/MSF and the Gates Foundation did.
> > >
> > > It will be decades before there is enough verifiable data to show what
> > > really was effective and what was tissue paper dreams.  Just like
> medical
> > > proclamation of the magic of radiation treatments has turned out to
> have
> > > been a lethal dose of false narratives.  From Marie Curie on, and that
> is
> > > just one example of modern doctors and medical professionals getting
> > things
> > > oh, so, very wrong.  Diet pills, pain pills, early government endorsed
> > > treatments for HIV/AIDS turned out to be damaging, ineffective, or
> > outright
> > > toxic and became public health embarrassments.  All that Oxy pushed by
> > > doctors could well be the root cause of the homeless crisis.  FDA and
> CDC
> > > endorsed the use.  Look how right they got this crisis.  Or, lets ban
> and
> > > not allow research into THC, which is very effective in treatment of
> many
> > > health issues.  Helps with side effects of chemo, ophthalmic issues,
> and
> > > might even assist in breaking fatal outcomes in opioids laces with
> > > fentanyl.  (Currently being investigated in BC Canada)
> > >
> > > There are no simple or easy solutions.  There are no political
> personages
> > > who were not chasing their own tails on this.  Because those supposed
> to
> > be
> > > “enlightened” and medically trained or establishment endorsed speaking
> > > heads could not provide a reliable or consistent message from the
> start,
> > > and kept on vacillating if not daily then on a weekly basis.  Hard to
> > hit a
> > > target spun out of control by the people you are supposed to trust on
> the
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > Clay
> > >
> > >
> > > inter urinas et faeces nascimur
> > >
> > > > On Dec 19, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That is a reasonable question. I tend to think that had they been
> > allowed
> > > > to do what they wanted to do, based upon their expertise in this
> area,
> > > > rather than being micromanaged at every turn by people with no formal
> > > > training in medicine, public health, or any other form of scientific
> > > > endeavor, that things would have been very different in terms of the
> > > course
> > > > of this epidemic and its magnitude. We have lots of examples of
> > countries
> > > > that had a strong centralized government response, and did far better
> > > than
> > > > we have in terms of deaths per 100k.
> > >
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