Yeah but not where the panels would need to be. It’s a conundrum --FT Sent from iFōn
> On May 30, 2022, at 2:13 PM, MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Don't you need a nice large roofed over area to keep your cars under? > > When I did mine the cost of the 24x32 south angled solar support structure > was included in the gov rebates. Also happens to keep the rain off the cars > or any projects I am working on. > > MG > > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >> I have a philosophical aversion to making decisions based on tax credits or >> anything involving gummint "help." >> A friend of mine was all excited a few weeks ago about getting solar panels >> on his roof, tax credits and all that. He is a world-class ecologist and >> ocean researcher so he is into the environmental aspects of the schemes. >> Whatever. I popped by the other day to pick up something and he was >> lamenting the whole thing, the contractor (sourced through the electric >> company) was completely incompetent, etc. so he sent them on their way. The >> whole thing is on hold. >> Another buddy apparently has a system installed now and is waiting for a >> Tesla battery to provide some stand-alone capacity in the event of power >> outage. I was over there recently but it was dark and I didn't see the >> install. >> I have been thinking once I move to my more rural estate I might do some >> solar but it would likely require a solar "farm" i.e., free-standing panels >> on some racks or something because of the layout of the estate. But then I >> think about a tank of fuel with a generator to run things and that seems a >> better deal. >> --FT >>> On 5/27/22 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> This is my position. I’m more than wiling to “go green” if it makes good >>> financial sense. At present and for the foreseeable future, it doesn’t. >>> That’s whether it pertains to cars or stationary power systems. >>> >>> -D >>> >>>> On May 27, 2022, at 12:51 PM, G Mann via Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> In the interest of a reality check on that thought, consider this. >>>> 1. Since you would not be able to do a grid tie to the solar panels, you >>>> would not receive any government matching funds for purchase and install of >>>> the solar rack. Your cost for a 10KW solar array would be, approx, $15,000. >>>> 2. You then need an enclosed and vented space for a battery bank [insert >>>> cost per sq. ft of house area.] >>>> 3. You then need to purchase and maintain a battery bank. Estimated $8 to >>>> $10,000, with cables and racks. >>>> 4. Now, a solar controller, to control battery bank charging and inverter >>>> to control car charging. Estimate, $8 to $10,000 for that equipment. >>>> Which gives rise to the question: "Does $8 per gallon for diesel sound so >>>> bad in comparison, or are you truly committed to "Go Green via an EV"? >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 7:20 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Putting aside the environmental and international economic and security >>>>> issues associated with lithium batteries and PV panels, I like the idea of >>>>> a garage with PV panels to charge your car. Of course you would need >>>>> storage batteries in your garage to collect and store the electrons from >>>>> solar photons so you can charge your car at night. The whole process >>>>> should >>>>> be on the order of maybe 8% efficient if you’re lucky. >>>>> >>>>> --FT >>>>> Sent from iFōn >>>>> >>>>>> On May 27, 2022, at 4:31 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes < >>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> When I first heard of ZEVs, I thought "Oh, you mean Remote Emissions >>>>> Vehicles". >>>>>> Mitch. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2022-05-26 17:24, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>>>>>> And I don’t want to start the back and forth up, but the electricity >>>>>>> to charge those batteries has to come from somewhere, and it’s likely >>>>>>> generated using fossil fuels at present. >>>>>>> So the emissions are going to come from somewhere in the process, just >>>>>>> not from a tailpipe on the car in this case. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
