I would probably buy a lot more dealer parts if my dealer was not a rip off. The shipping from the online places usually ends up being too much.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:22 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I think the point is, “How many of those parts are you buying from the > dealer?” OEM won’t make a difference. > > I mean, I even buy my soft parts such as filters and such for the dealer in > most cases. They’re maybe 10% more, but it’s an OE part, which certainly has > value. > > -D > >> On Sep 1, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> My goal is not to keep a beater on the road as cheap as possible although >> some cars that come they might fit that description. All of my drivers are >> properly maintained with OE or OEM parts. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:15 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Is not that they "don't care about" them, its simply a matter of suppliers >>> no longer willing to make the parts and not finding a cost effective >>> replacement. If there is a demand, they will try to find a solution. >>> They're a business, not a parts charity. >>> >>> Next complaint will be that reworked replacement parts are too expensive. >>> It takes significant resources to manufacture any parts for any car, new or >>> old. Engineers, purchasing, business cases, testing, quality control, raw >>> materials sourcing, tooling, etc. They don't just walk up to a machine and >>> push the "make me door seals for a 123" button. >>> >>> Think about how you buy your parts...are you supporting the system by >>> buying from MB genuine? Or are you looking for the cheapest possible >>> source regardless of quality? Then complaining when MB support is gone... >>> >>> Owners of the 60s cars are happy to pay for parts as the value of their >>> cars are increasing. MB responds by making parts available. (Like 4.5 >>> engine mounts, NLA for a few years, now available again with a new >>> supplier). >>> >>> 90s car support brings up another issue: electronics. If the chips don't >>> exist to buy anymore, its simply impossible to make the parts. Period. >>> But as the value and demand for these cars increases on the collector >>> market, you will see more solutions appear. If your goal is to keep your >>> beater on the road as long as possible and cheap as possible, you're not >>> the target market for these solutions. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 10:03 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> How long ago was that? Now days you can’t even get door seals for 123 >>>> coupes. A lot of 124 parts are now unavailable. Many of the ACC vacuum pods >>>> are NLA. As previously mentioned you can no longer get 123 oil coolers or >>>> 126 SDL radiators. Vin coded ignition tumblers for 123 124 and 126 are NLA. >>>> Perhaps they want to support very old cars or very new cars, but middle >>>> aged 123-126 they don’t care about. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:57 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Very true. >>>>> >>>>> When I was “restoring” the 65 220SEb I was constantly amazed at the >>>> parts I could still get from Mercedes, and in most cases, how relatively >>>> inexpensive they were. For instance, I could still get a lot of rubber >>>> parts, both seals and suspension. A full set of bushings for the rear swing >>>> arms were less than $100. New front/rear springs, $110/each. >>>>> >>>>> The left front spring was really bad on that car, so bad that corner of >>>> the car was a good 2” low. Dealer checks on them and none in stock, but not >>>> NLA. Turns out, they had run out of inventory and were waiting on a new >>>> order. So they were still sourcing these things over 50 year after the car >>>> was built! >>>>> >>>>> -D >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:27 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Try getting parts for 50s and 60s cars. You'd be amazed how easy it is. >>>>>> >>>>>> You have to be creative in this business to find parts, but having a >>>> source >>>>>> like the classic center is pretty amazing overall. It's pretty >>>> remarkable >>>>>> what they do have. >>>>>> >>>>>> For example, I just bought a vacuum pod for the distributor of a 300SEL >>>>>> 3.5. Pretty obscure part, still available, under $100. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it perfect, no of course not, but be thankful they put so much effort >>>>>> into it, its still pretty special. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jaime >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 7:31 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes < >>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree re; NLA parts. And not just obscure stuff, but for example the >>>>>>> window regulator kit (the little nylon disc and clip) is NLA. Which is >>>>>>> nuts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kaleb Striplin wrote: >>>>>>> But they do not have anything that a normal dealer could not order? >>>>>>> Correct? The number of common parts that are becoming NLA is alarming. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < >>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ?The classic center is alive and well, and even just moved into a new >>>>>>> (much >>>>>>>> larger) facility inside the Long Beach VPC. Tom retired months ago, >>>> but >>>>>>>> hes still active online. I get parts deliveries all the time from >>>> them, >>>>>>>> still excellent service and loads of parts in stock. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jaime >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 4:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have not heard that. I don?t think the classic center really does >>>> much >>>>>>>>> anymore anyway does it? They only have the same parts any other >>>> dealer >>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>> as far as I know. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 3:14 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ?I may be late to the party, but I recently learned that Tom Hanson >>>> has >>>>>>>>>> retired from the MB Classic Center. >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Jaime Kopchinski >>>>>> http://www.jaimekop.com/ >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jaime Kopchinski >>> http://www.jaimekop.com/ >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
