Mike Canfield wrote:
> 
> That's what I am saying.......Seems if they can get that out of a pickup
> then it should be relatively easy in the SUV's.....Not so I guess.
> 

What's a diesel Excursion get?
Can it match an automatic F250? (probably not)

I'm 95% sure Jim was talking about his Cummins/Dodge 2500. 
When you look at the number of cars rated at 40+ mpg hwy 25 years ago vs today,
it's pretty pathetic. OTOH, nobody seems to want a car with the performance
of a 1.6L Escort today.

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