Thanks for sharing that, Craig. I am sorry to hear that your wife has seizures. I have recently just read about seizure dogs. IT IS AMAZING. I could not believe what I was reading! For those who don't know, seizure alert dogs can tell when a person is about to have a seizure BEFORE the person knows they are going to have one. The dog alerts the person and is also trained to protect them during the seizure (laying between them and objects, etc). Craig, correct me if I'm wrong. That is my understanding. The book I read said that doctors are not sure how seizure dogs work but they think the dogs can smell changes in brain chemistry that precede a seizure! THe newest thing is melanoma detection dogs. Absolutely amazing. There are also termite sniffing dogs and a bunch of other working dog stuff that German Shepherds excel at. The German Shepherd (a fascinating story in itself as to how the breed came about...and contemporaneous with the early years of Daimler MG and Benz et Cie.) is an amazing all around dog. Many breeds to certain things better, but all around, i don't think any dog beats them. I'm glad you are happy with your dog. Mine is sleeping next to my chair right now. I am NOT an "animal lover freak", but there is something truly extraordinary about the bond that develops between a man and his faithful dog. All the best, Chris P.S. Yes, Anke will be big. And she is not at all fat - just big! Her feet are still huge, so she's got a ways to go yet! Gentle as a lamb with our one year old...really neat to watch them interact.
Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:06:14 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann wrote: > OT: My new German Shepherd is about 22 weeks old and 55 pounds. Pretty > good size for a female. She LOVES to ride in the Benzes. Curls up on > the floor in front of the passenger seat. She "goes" well with the > car. Really great dog. She sounds like she's going to be on the large side! We've had German Shepherds for 34 years -- as long as we've had Mercedes. A picture of our litter girl -- 15 months old, 65 pounds, and being trained as a seizure alert dog for my wife -- as we were waiting for the Tram to take us to the top of Sandia Peak in Albuquerque is attached. We had dinner at the restaurant at the top and she laid underneath the table on my parka, well behaved. 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From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 23 21:46:34 2006 Received: from web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.69.31]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnMOu-0005ey-76 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:46:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 48509 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Nov 2006 21:44:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: HDprCzMVM1n7glF9IIcr.8LHMjPE6Xo0sBUYae1q3ohH75NFPJxvJmtI18I9qryTs4zfbsL6cctUit.7qUoLJoHMmfUGCO0k2DqRc5LzzFrh688qvvt8IzxV.Mu4SmmKyRt9VhhEJLRe14Y- Received: from [24.123.111.98] by web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:44:07 PST Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:44:07 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] om617 head bolt torque specs X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:46:34 -0000 Peter, Larry and Marshall, Thanks for explaining. I understand perfectly now. That is ingenious and makes alot of sense to me. Unfortunately, my friend (who I was helping last night) does NOT get it and so he just torqued them up. I'll report to y'all what happens a little down the road. I forwarded him more of the e-mails that came today, so maybe it will sink in...I hope so or he's gonna be sorry. Again, thanks alot for the explanation and enjoy your thanksgiving. Chris Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The torque is irrelevant, what you are doing is loading a spring. In fact, the torque will not change much as you turn the bolts. The bolts are elastic -- by applying a pre-determined amount of "stretch" to them you are ensuring that they will always have a correct "holding together" pressure. This is to keep the minumum pressure on the head gasket at all temperature ranges. On aluminum heads, the head expands more than the bolts, for instance, and if you just torqued down standard bolts, the head gasket would be crushed when the engine was at operating temperature, then loose cold. The "stretch" bolts act as springs, keeping adequate pressure on the head all the time. When they become inelastic and "grow" in length instead of returning to their initial length when unscrewed, they are toast and have to be replaced, as they are no longer acting as springs. Note that the "stretch" bolts always have a reduced diameter section. 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From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 23 21:55:15 2006 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.200.82]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnMXL-0005tz-0w for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:55:15 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2006112321523901200ort7fe>; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:52:49 +0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:52:34 -0500 From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] om617 head bolt torque specs X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:55:15 -0000 Christopher McCann wrote: > Peter, Larry and Marshall, > > Thanks for explaining. I understand perfectly now. That is ingenious and > makes alot of sense to me. Unfortunately, my friend (who I was helping last > night) does NOT get it and so he just torqued them up. I'll report to y'all > what happens a little down the road. I forwarded him more of the e-mails > that came today, so maybe it will sink in...I hope so or he's gonna be sorry. > > Again, thanks alot for the explanation and enjoy your thanksgiving. The usual result of NOT following the proper procedure is failure of the bolt/head gasket, but it could be tomorrow or not for years from now (with more than a little luck). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]