"Most of the time, at least in the case of working kennels, the breeder will profile you and decide which pup is the best match for you."
Yes, that has been my experience too. Chris Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, I would remind that breeds certainly do vary within a breed. The poorer, or the less-focused the breeding program, the more the variance. I include in the category of less-focused those that breed for pets and not for the particular purpose for which the breed was developed. Yes, there are breeds that were developed for no purpose other than to be a pet, and it is harder to find actual proof of the puppy's quality in these cases. As Chris said, there are puppy tests that judge temperament, though I've found a lot of breeders get offended if you offer to administer them. Most breeders that think highly of their program will tell you what's up rather than have you tell them anything. Most of the time, at least in the case of working kennels, the breeder will profile you and decide which pup is the best match for you. Research and attend dog shows or performance events pertaining to the breed you are interested in. People are usually more than happy to tell you the good and the bad about the breed unless they are getting ready for their ring time. However, they are much less willing to speak of who is a good or bad breeder. Meeting the dam and sire are pretty useful, though certainly no guarantee. Brian Chris wrote: breeds certainly have unique temperments/personalities and qualities, but temperment also varies widely within each breed. _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 07 15:52:03 2007 Received: from postal.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.12] helo=mail.windwireless.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HEp5X-0004C6-0R for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:52:03 +0000 Received: from windwireless.net (unverified [206.63.94.197]) by windwireless.net (WindPostal) with ESMTP id 1736046 for <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:06:32 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:51:23 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-412260344 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Convertible? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:52:03 -0000 > Roadsters are two seaters, convertibles 4 place. But then, what do you=20= > call > an SL with the kinder seat option? We call the SL's rear 'seat' area the 'bucket'. Wiki's opinion: Roadster is the North American term for a 2-seater without a permanent=20= top and without rollup windows (if it has rollup windows it is a=20 cabriolet, not a roadster), and the windshield is bolt on rather than=20 integrated as in modern cars. Even with the lightweight convertible top=20= raised and the clear plastic "windows" snapped in, the driver and=20 passenger remain somewhat exposed to the elements. "Convertible" is an=20= abbreviation of "convertible coupe" or "convertible sedan" which in=20 1920s-30s parlance indicated that the car had roll-up side windows=20 instead of removable windows (usually called sidecurtains in America).=20= In modern times, the word is often used to describe a two-seat=20 convertible without fixed window frames, especially a light-weight=20 sports car. Most modern day production "roadsters" only meet one of the=20= three criteria. Here, the use of the name roadster is more a marketing=20= gimmick than a technical label, invoking the feeling of an open-top=20 machine for enjoyment, like those of the past. Also: In the 19th century a coup=E9 was a closed four-wheel coach, cut (coup=E9)= =20 to eliminate the forward, rear-facing passenger seats, with a single=20 passenger seat behind the driver...=