For several years we ran our own mail server at Hudson River Sloop
Clearwater with all its attendant baby sitting, spam filtering, and other
work.

About 3 years ago Clearwater switched to Google Apps for Education
(non-profits).  They gave us 100 free email boxes and each user gets 25 GB
of mail/docs storage.  All the obvious advantages are there such as web
access from anywhere, forwarding, delegation, aliases which allow a mailbox
to be assigned to a organization position such as "EXEC" with an email
address [email protected] (this is great when personal changes and you
want email continuity.  Most important is *search* on email by sender,
topic, etc.   Some of our people have abandoned the use of folders because
of its power

If you can't trust Google you are going to make yourself crazy.  How does
the organization know they can trust you?  You are correct using the term
"prejudice" -- you have pre-judged.  Try it -- its really good.

Hal

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Chris Joslyn
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Good stuff! Thanks.
>
> I involuntarily focus on phrases like "slightly more baby sitting" and "a
> bit complicated", though. That sounds like "work" to me.
>
> I am considering Google for Nonprofits <http://www.google.com/nonprofits/>.
> My only hesitation grows from my prejudice, as in "Google" means "mostly
> benevolent and disturbingly o*mnispective overlord". Anyone tried that
> option?*
> *
> *
> *- Chris*
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Sean Dague <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 01/31/2012 11:04 PM, Chris Joslyn wrote:
>>
>>> You know the story. Boy sets up webserver. Boy helps nonprofit.
>>> Nonprofit wants boy to set up a mail server. It finishes somewhere with
>>> boy spending too much of his free time trying to read and remember how
>>> to do all this properly.
>>>
>>> So.
>>>
>>> I seek wisdom.
>>>
>>> Facts:
>>>
>>> Ubuntu 11.10
>>> Reverse DNS set up.
>>> Hostname set up.
>>> Postfix set up.
>>> I can send an email from the server from a command line email client.
>>> Good so far.
>>>
>>> Now I decide on server software. What say you? Dovecot
>>> <http://dovecot.org/>? Courier <http://www.courier-mta.org/>? Hormel
>>> herring 
>>> <http://en.wiktionary.org/**wiki/mislead<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mislead>>?
>>> Something else?
>>>
>>
>> I went with Dovecot, after 2 hours of getting no where with Courier.
>> Dovecot was much more straight forward on my Ubuntu Linode (which is still
>> 10.04, but I don't think a lot will have changed).
>>
>> The linode guides are always quite good, so I'd start there for the parts
>> you haven't done yet (and double check the ones you have) -
>> http://library.linode.com/**email/postfix<http://library.linode.com/email/postfix>
>>
>> I also saw this fly by the other day, which I was going to read through
>> to see if there was anything else in postfix I needed to look out for -
>> http://flurdy.com/docs/**postfix/index.html<http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/index.html>
>>
>> I have found that mail servers require slightly more baby sitting because
>> of the spam problem. You'll tighten up rules the way you think you are
>> supposed to, then find some pseudo legit mail getting dropped (like
>> christmas wish list from a clothing company that your wife likes).
>>
>> I would also recommend that when you integrate spamassassin (assuming
>> that's coming) to do it at the milter level, which lets spamassassin reject
>> mail before delivery. There is a spamass-milter package in Ubuntu that does
>> most of this for you.
>>
>> Postgrey, install it and mail sure it's running. That gets rid of 80% of
>> my inbound mail as being invalid, which it is.
>>
>>        -Sean
>>
>> --
>>
>> Sean Dague                       Learn about the Universe with the
>> sean at dague dot net          Mid-Hudson Astronomical Association
>> http://dague.net                         http://midhudsonastro.org
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