The question of how to buy a registered copy is simple from what I have
read here, but I will caveat what I type below by saying I might be wrong 
about 2 and 3:

1) Download Miami and register via MiamiRegister (assuming this works and
Holgar's system is still set up on the other end - which appears to be
questionable).

2) Buy from a dealer that has been authorized by Holgar to sell registered
copies of Miami (this seems to be more prevalent in other countries).

3) Buy a copy from someone else, either directly or via an auction site.

Clearly, 1) is legal since it is directly from Holgar; likewise, 2) is
legal if Holgar authorized the dealership.

The question of whether 3) is legal has yet to be resolved.  If a user
simply wants to sell a copy of his copy of Miami, keeping a copy for him
to use, that is clearly not legal.  If a user tries to sell his copy of
Miami, with the intent of destroying any copies of the software after
transferring title to someone else, that may or may not be legal.  It
depends IF the user agreed to a software license, IF the license prohibits
transfers or sales (as the text below implies), and IF the software
license is enforceable.

Obviously, if Holgar cannot or does not enforce any prohibitions against
transfers, the whole issue is moot.

Additional caveat:  I am not a lawyer.  These are just my observations.
If you want a definitive answer, seek legal advice.

jeh

On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Julian Aronowitz wrote:

> Steve, Roy, Everyone,
> 
>    On Sun, Nov 12, 2000, at 11:37 AM, you wrote:
> 
> > Hello Roy
> > 
> > On 12-Nov-00, you wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >> How about asking the fellow you bought it from to send you his
> > >> keyfile? Perhaps he has it on disk somewhere still?
> > >
> > > I`ve done this yesterday evening and since a few minutes I`m using the
> > > full registered version of Miami3.2 :-)
> > > THX all for your help.
> > 
> > 
> > From the Miami Docs
> > 
> > "Key  files are non-transferable and may not be sold or traded to any other
> > person  or  organization.   They are intended to be used only by the person
> > who registered."
> > 
> > and from earlier in the docs
> > 
> > "Giving  the  key  file  to other users or using key files that you did not
> > receive  directly  from  me  for  your personal use is considered an act of
> > software piracy!"
> > 
> > 
> > I  don't  know  what  the legal standpoint of EBay is, but I would bet they
> > would  be  sympathetic if you explained that that this was an illegal sale,
> > ie.   get  your  money back so you can spend it on registration of your own
> > keyfile.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> 
>    All of you have succeeded in totally confusing me.  Since when can
> we buy Miami (whether regular 3.2b or Deluxe) through an auction place? 
> The only place I ever saw Miami, included, when you had to pay, was
> when a lite version was included in the AmigaOS/DOS version 3.5 bundle. 
> Then, there was a slightly different procedure in registering it (as I
> recall).  Otherwise, the only way is to get ANY version of Miami (2.9
> is okay), start it up, use your browser (graphical or text), go to the
> NordicGlobal Web site, download the current, full version, and register
> it by filling out the form and paying the money.  Doing this will also
> allow you to use the MiamiSSL program and associated files.
> 
>    Now, maybe I am totally "out to lunch," but how I described the way
> to get registered, is the way I did it and the only way I know.  If
> the question was, "Where, the h*ll, do we send our check or money
> order, since the Florida, USA address is no longer the correct one for
> that?" I would understand it and would try to find an answer, as, this
> happened to a friend of mine.  But, I cannot understand connecting the
> buying of Miami with eBay, or any other auction.
> 
>    I am not trying to come across as snobbish, egotistical or bullying. 
> I am just confused and seek some clarification.
> 
>                                          Julian.
> 
> 
> 
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