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By: Jeffrey E. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Fred Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On: Thursday, March 08, 2001, 6:12:50 AM
Re: [Miami] Re: Cable Modem tests
Hi Jeffrey,
TS>>>> Static IPs have the advantage that you're always reachable at the
TS>>>> same address. Essential for running a server, "properly."
FW>>> Yes, although @Home officially prohibits servers, anyway.
TS>> Mine too, as most do. Though, my ISPs have prohibited running "public"
TS>> servers. Which I suppose allows them to not get embroiled in user
TS>> arguments about whether they can run a HTTP server, between friends.
JH> These days, I think it is almost impossible (in the Windows world, at
JH> least) NOT to run a server:
JH>
JH> 1) File and print server sharing is built into ever version of windows;
JH> does the ISP define that as a "server"?
It may be available, nut it's not always enabled. Most home PCs don't
have a LAN, and without a network connection of some kind, file and
printer sharing aren't enabled.
JH> 2) Ever version of Windows comes with (either on the CD or via download
JH> from MS) a webserver; at what point does an ISP throw the towel in on
JH> that?
Most people don't install it. The average user isn't really running such
services.
JH> 3) More and more applications are web-enabled, often in such a way that
JH> the web services are transparent to the user; do ISPs start restricting
JH> most applications?
JH>
JH> 4) We won't even discuss Napster, gnutella, webcam software, etc.
These are the two issues that are most likely to come into conflict with a
rigidly enforced "no server" policy. Since most internet activity is two
way, some more so than others, it's impossible to use the net without
sending out data as well as receiving it. Though, most of the outgoing
data is small in volume.
The ones that generate lots of data traffic, or other problems, are the
ones that ISPs really object to. Once you start doing that, you really
are running a public server.
JH> Unless a given IP address attracts many, many, many connections, and
JH> takes up megabytes of bandwidth, I don't think ISPs, while legally
JH> capable of enforcing their usage agreements, will practically be able
JH> to enforce those terms without raising issues of selective enforcement
JH> and fairness.
Me either.
JH> (BTW, even AmIRC and the other Amiga IRC clients have DCC servers. And
JH> in the abstract, isn't PPP really a server application, since it can
JH> initiate or complete a connection from another system?)
I think it's mostly to do with traffic and annoying unrelated user,
problems.
There's certainly people transferring large files, all the time, using IRC
or ICQ, but only between two people. Or downloading huge update files to
Windows. If ISPs want to get narky about some users using more bandwidth
than others, they're going to shoot themselves in the foot, over it.
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