I'm not trying to lay blame or trumpet success, only trying to help Steven
Folberg, to diagnose his problems. And if something doesn't work you usually
assume that It was not installed properly or something else has disrupted
that.  This is not for me or anyone else to diagnose, as we aren't at the
computer that has the problem.  I just hope that whatever we discuss about
Steve F's problem helps him find the problem.  And usually in my experience
all the little fiddling around with moving stuff, around has taken much
longer than a clean install. 

BY the Way Steve F? Hows it goin?  Did you solve the problem??

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Seifert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 4:04 PM
To: MCMANUS, Steve
Subject: [Miami] Re: Can you help me troubleshoot this?


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By:  MCMANUS, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On:  Saturday, July 21, 2001, 4:19:10 AM
Re:  [Miami] Re: Can you help me troubleshoot this?


Hi Steve,

SF>>>>> If I launch Miami after a cold boot of my Amiga (towered A1200,
SF>>>>> with '060 CPU) and try to immediately go online, one of three
SF>>>>> things happens:
SF>>>>>
SF>>>>> 1) Miami searches for IP addresses for several seconds, then
SF>>>>> hangs.
SF>>>>>
SF>>>>> 2) Miami (or Miami Downtown) gurus immediately.
SF>>>>>
SF>>>>> 3) Miami appears to go online fine, but the next program I launch
SF>>>>> (e.g., YAM or Voyager or AWeb) crashes Miami!
SF>>>>>
SF>>>>> My workaround, after many days of hair pulling:  for some bizarre
SF>>>>> reason, if I launch YAM first after a cold boot, and then launch
SF>>>>> Miami and go online, everything is fine.  Miami is rock solid and
SF>>>>> performs flawlessly.  I can even repeatedly go online and offline
SF>>>>> with no trouble!

MS>>> I have a potential solution, It sounds like there is a Version
MS>>> problem with the librarys, (I don't know which one).  But when you
MS>>> launch YAM it loads the correct library, and from then on it is
MS>>> resident and everything else uses that.  Otherwise Miami will load
MS>>> the old one!,

TS>> That shouldn't happen, unless someone's put MUI files in the programs
TS>> directory (YAM or Miami, for example), that should have been placed
TS>> in one of the MUI: directories.

MS> You are right things like that shouldn't happen, but Programs start
MS> looking for libraries in their initial location.  Then they follow the
MS> path laid out by the program.

If programs are installed properly, then it shouldn't happen.

MS> One thing you should do is run SNOOPDOS, and Try both scenarios (A
MS> non-Yam first, and A Yam First).  That should tell you the version
MS> differences and locations.

It's probably easiest to just look in the YAM and Miami directories for
MUI files.  Then put them where they're supposed to be:  MUI:Libs/MUI

YAM shouldn't have any MUI files within the YAM directories.

The only MUI files within in Miami aren't MUI MCCs, but the MiamiGUIs:

Miami:Libs/MUI.MiamiDxGui    (for MiamiDx)
Miami:Libs/MUI.MIamiGui      (for the MUI GUI for Miami)
Miami:Libs/MUI.MiamiToolsGui (for the MUI GUI for Miami)
Miami:Libs/MUIMWB.MiamiGui   (for the Magic Workbench looking MUI GUI for
                              Miami).

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