You are right things like that shouldn't happen, but Programs start looking
for librarys in there initial location.  Then they follow the path laid out
by the program.  
        One thing you should do is run SNOOPDOS , and Try both scenarios (A
non-Yam first,  and A Yam First ). That should tell you the version
differences and locations. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Seifert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 2:07 PM
To: MCMANUS, Steve
Subject: [Miami] Re: Can you help me troubleshoot this?


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By:  MCMANUS, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On:  Saturday, July 21, 2001, 3:08:59 AM
Re:  [Miami] Re: Can you help me troubleshoot this?


Hi Steve,

SF>>> In brief:  I'm using Miami 3.2b (Release 2, although I'm not sure
SF>>> how to tell), Class Act interface, '020+ version, with an Ethernet
SF>>> card in my Ateo Bus and a cable modem and Netgear router -- DHCP all
SF>>> around, SANA-II interface to the ateonet.device driver.
SF>>>
SF>>> If I launch Miami after a cold boot of my Amiga (towered A1200, with
SF>>> '060 CPU) and try to immediately go online, one of three things
SF>>> happens:
SF>>>
SF>>> 1) Miami searches for IP addresses for several seconds, then hangs.
SF>>>
SF>>> 2) Miami (or Miami Downtown) gurus immediately.
SF>>>
SF>>> 3) Miami appears to go online fine, but the next program I launch
SF>>>    (e.g., YAM or Voyager or AWeb) crashes Miami!
SF>>>
SF>>> My workaround, after many days of hair pulling:  for some bizarre
SF>>> reason, if I launch YAM first after a cold boot, and then launch
SF>>> Miami and go online, everything is fine.  Miami is rock solid and
SF>>> performs flawlessly.  I can even repeatedly go online and offline
SF>>> with no trouble!

MS> I have a potential solution, It sounds like there is a Version problem
MS> with the librarys, (I don't know which one).  But when you launch YAM
MS> it loads the correct library, and from then on it is resident and
MS> everything else uses that.  Otherwise Miami will load the old one!,

That shouldn't happen, unless someone's put MUI files in the programs
directory (YAM or Miami, for example), that should have been placed in one
of the MUI: directories.

There's a newer version of YAM available now.  It might be worth trying
that out.

MS> And I think if you scrubbed your Amiga of all librarys and did a clean
MS> Install of Miami, (Including Assigns, Paths, ENV, ENVARC, etc etc) It
MS> will correct it.  (Or at least I hope it does!;)

A rather drastic solution, and one where a person is likely to end up
removing something essential, without noticing it, and end up having to
fix several new problems.

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