Howdy, Tim...
On 27-Jul-01, Tim Seifert wrote:
> _Replying to a message_
>
> By: Steven Folberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On: Friday, July 27, 2001, 7:22:47 AM
> Re: [Miami] Re: Can you help me troubleshoot this?
>
>
> Hi Steven,
>
> I've not had any problems with Miami crashing. Here's how I go on-line:
>
> Usually, I've not got any internet software running at all before I go
> on-line, unless I'd been writing a letter just beforehand. I start Miami
> (usually using a DOpus5 menu, that runs the program as Workbench process).
> Then use the Miami GUI to initiate the dial-up, and go on-line. Then,
> after Miami has properly connected, I start up any internet software that
> I'm going to use.
Uh-huh. That's basically how I'd often do it when I was using a dialup
account, too. But now I'm running SANA-II ethernet wtih a cable modem.
>
> The point being that I don't do things like run a browser, and hope that
> trying to load in some web page, or asking YAM to get my mail, will
> initiate a Miami dial-in. That's a nasty way to go about it, and the
> three main Amiga web browsers, and YAM, are far more buggy (I've found)
> than any other software (certainly extremely crash happy, and YAM has
> always been a memory trasher), so they're the last things I want to let
> mess with my connection attempts.
Well, as I said, oddly enough, launching YAM immediately before launching
Miami seemed to keep the guru at bay for awhile, although now that's not
working reliably, either... I had to futz with Miami several times (and
reboot after several lockups) before getting online succesfully this
time...
>
> Also, I have the DNS servers for my ISPs programmed into Miami as
> permanent entries. This speeds up the dial-in process no end (all of my
> ISPs take quite some time to respond with that sort of information), and
> minimises my chances of Miami not being able to resolve my own host name
> (probably the extra delay doesn't help).
>
I am connected to the net via a Netgear router, so the DNS server (i.e., the
router's address) never does change. I tried making that static, i.e.,
permanent, but it would seem to help, then didn't help the next time... so
I don't think that's the glitch.
> If Miami is crashing, you really want to resolve that, by itself, rather
> than try some dodgy trick to sidestep the issue. If running Miami
> completely by itself (no net software, don't run any hacks or patches that
> you absolutely don't have to run), then I'd be checking things like MUI
> installations, system software, and not using serial.device replacements.
I recently had occasion to reinstall OS 3.9, so that should be in order. And
I'm not using the serial device at all. As for MUI, I'm not sure if that
could be the culprit, since I'm deliberately using the ClassAct/Reaction
GUI of Miami.
>
>> A request: if the 23K e-mail is too large to be posted to this list,
>> please e-mail me off-list if you're willing to take a look at the logs
>> for me. BTW, the full logs, unedited, run about 300K (I turned on
>> every monitoring function I could find....) ;-)
>
> You can send it to me (the full log), I'll have a bash at it.
>
Will do, thanks!
Steve
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