Hi,

Theo de Raadt wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:44:03PM -0600:
> Ingo Schwarze <schwa...@usta.de> wrote:
>> Jeffrey Walton wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:55:53AM -0400:

>>> I assumed OpenBSD and NetBSD were collaborating and shared code
>>> and docs in some places.

>> To a limited extent, that is true.

> To a limited extent, it is true that birds and fish are friends.
> 
> In other words, it is untrue.  There isn't collaboration.

I have definitely collaborated with at least these NetBSD developers
in the past:

 * Joerg Sonnenberger (joerg@)
 * Thomas Klausner (wiz@)
 * Christos Zoulas (christos@)

"Collaboration" in the sense that there was consistent working
together on joint projects for months, with Joerg even for years.
Besides, Sevan Janiyan (sevan@) has been one of the most prolific
mandoc release testers for four years now, to the point that i might
call that collaboration.  Eight other NetBSD developers have provided
minor contributions over the years, the overall effect of which
also feels like systematic collaboration to me.

Similar effects exist for FreeBSD (bapt@) and Debian (stapelberg@)
and to a lesser degree for Illumos (Yuri Pankov) and Void Linux (Leah
Neukirchen).

I even attended a mini-hackathon organized by a NetBSD developer
in the past, and the code both the NetBSD developer and i wrote
there is still part of both OpenBSD and NetBSD.  That is certainly
worth being called collaboration.

> And there isn't sharing.  At best there is freely given stuff which
> is sometimes taken.  I propose not using the word "share" since people
> may believe it is one of the stronger meanings of the word.  At best
> it is the weakest meaning.

It seems true that "freely give" is not as easily misunderstood
as "share".

Yours,
  Ingo

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