Todd what you aren't saying is that he repaired that Dracula Window card prior 
to this fake problem surfacing.  No one suspected anything.  All approaches 
changed when it was discovered the hobby had a bad problem.  Virtually everyone 
in the hobby was fooled, not just John.  And when awareness of the problem 
surfaced, John and others then took a different look at things.  Yet, you still 
support the creator of this entire mess.  It seems pretty ironic that on one 
hand you support the 100% creator of fakes, but hammer on the guy trying to 
help this industry.

Jim Gresham 
18501 Henry Ct. 
Ray, Mi 48096 
586 677-7669

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Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 18:17:47 -0400
From: toddfeier...@msn.com
Subject: Re: [MOPO] 3rd Party Grading Comes to Posters
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU









Not only did John Davis at Poster Mountain say a FAKE Dracula Window Card was 
real after he re-restored it, he also swore a Dracula REPRINT One Sheet was 
also real.

 

Those are two examples most people know about.  Curious to know how many other 
FAKES he also swore were real.  

 

On the other hand, since he is obviously no expert, I'm curious to know how 
many REAL posters and lobby cards he swore as being FAKE??

 

Just because someone restores posters, doesn't make them an expert in 
authenticating them.

 

In addition, just because someone has handled a lot of posters, doesn't make 
them an expert either.

 

Todd Feiertag

 

 


Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:06:24 +0100
From: evan...@blueyonder.co.uk
Subject: Re: [MOPO] 3rd Party Grading Comes to Posters
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

It is indeed interesting.
And if they have the right skills and knowledge it could have helped if they 
started two years.


But, I still can't get over that someone seemingly had everything at their 
disposal and still missed one fake in particular.


Correct me if this is account is inaccurate, but if you strip the false front 
from a Window Card back, to improve and replace the back, and you've years of 
experience of handling paper, how can you miss it?


I'm not hinting anything untoward, I just still can't understand it.


And if they couldn't spot that one, what level of skills and knowledge are 
required for us to rely on anyone to prevent any possible next generation?


Cheers,
Richard







On 26 May 2010, at 21:46, Sean Linkenback wrote:


For a long time now, 3rd party grading has been rumored to be "just around the 
corner", "coming soon" and sometimes "never will happen".
 
Well that day is finally upon us for better or worse (though I can't help but 
wonder if it had been here even two years ago would collectors have saved 
literally millions of dollars and maybe the "Universal Horror Fakes" fiasco 
might have been over as soon as it started.)
 
CGC (Certified Grading Company - the people who have been grading comics for 
over a decade) has recently begun limited certification of lobby cards to test 
the market and the first examples will be offered at the upcoming Heritage 
Signature Auction in July.
Although no photos are on Heritage's site yet, there are two listings for 
complete lobby sets (Let It Be, and All The King's Men) that have been CGC 
graded/certified.
 
It will be very interesting to see how these are accepted in the marketplace.
 
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