> woods: > yeah, your correct about immigration laws. They are laws and they are > not enforced, but encouraged and supported by many businesses. > Not sure about "election laws" being ignored. I haven't heard about > this. > Interesting. What are you hearing? > I've heard about Acorn, but then again this voter registration > fraud doesn't hurt the voting process. It hurts Acorn for they are paying > people > that clearly have no integrity and these people are putting names such as > "Mickey Mouse" > or whatever names from the phone book, etc... on these registration > forms, but > that's them. Not the people that will vote. The people that might get > their name > put on a registration form ten times or twenty times don't know their > names are on > these forms. They will go and vote once. It's Acorn that's hurting for > by law, even > if they see registration forms that are clearly messed up and they tell > the gov't agencies > about these inconsistencies, they still have to turn these forms into the > gov't agencies. > By law, Acorn cannot throw out these bogus forms. Only the gov't agencies > can. In the > end, a person will vote once for they didn't even know their names were > being doubled or > put on the forms more than once. Voter fraud on votes of over 170 million > people since 2000 > have only be found in 20 cases in the court and convicted by the court: > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27319542#27319542 > > > This is only one perspective and I haven't found other perspectives on > this topic. Now > again, maybe your talking about other "election laws" being ignored. I > was bringing up > what has been mainstreamed as an issue. > I admit I don't know much about this issue, and haven't heard much > about it to help > balance any inconsistencies or ill-informed reports that might be embedded > in what I'm hearing. > I usually try to get information from many different sources to get a > fully picture of what's happening. > But here's some of what I've found.
You make some good points. I only know about election fraud from news reports, many about Acorn which is apparently encouraging false voter registration in several states. The purpose must be to affect the outcome of the election. Otherwise, why make the effort? In any case, false registration is a violation of law. > Without laws we have moral decay - decadence. If laws are not good, > then > intellectually they can be argued out in congress, but if congress can't > even > follow the constitution... This is why such parties as the Constitutional > Party and > the Libertarian Party are trying to gain a foothold in the two-party > monopoly system. > The whole base of these parties is founded upon following the Constitution > for there > is a recognized lack of following the Constitution so political parties > are being > formed to try to reinstall the U.S. Constitution as the law of the U.S. If you are suggesting the U.S. needs a viable third party, I agree. The current two parties have abandoned defense of the Constitution even while every elected member takes an oath to defend it. When the nation's leaders commit perjury without a second thought, it's little wonder the concept of "sacred honor" among the electorate goes down drain -- another social pattern protecting us from biological brute force slipping away. What we really need to keep our eye on is protecting the intellectual level rights of free speech, freedom of religion, freedom to bear arms, etc. which have already suffered attrition, always in the name of "the public good." Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
