Simon, 
sorry about shifting from the Civil war to the Rev. war.  But, i hope you got 
the main idea.  the idea behind the civil was to keep the nation together, at 
the social level, and for unity at the intellectual level.  i guess that 
Pirsig assumed that we already knew about the whole connection of human 
beings to intellectual Quality when he got to the part about  moral wars 
because he had already explained it with the death penalty discussion.  he 
didnt feel like mentioning it again, i suppose.  and, like Matt was saying, 
making 'Quality' synonomous with 'morality' is a little short-sighted.  I 
loved the part in ZAMM when Pirsig explained Quality by putting it into the 
Tao te Ching in place of 'the way.'  Looking through the book, you get verses 
like, 'Cultivate [Quality] in your person, and it will be genuine.'  I guess, 
'Cultivate [morality] in your person...' might also work, but it depends on 
what the individual sees as the highest good.  YOu could put in Atman, God, 
Tao, Zarathustra, and many others in place of that.  But i think at the 
collective unconscious level (for all you Jungianites), everyone has this 
notion implanted in them of what to follow and what to become and mold 
themselves into, and the word for this, i think, is 'Quality.'  one last Lao 
Tzu verse right quick:  'Man models himself on earth/ Earth on heaven/ Heaven 
on Quality/ And Quality on that which is naturally so.'
rasheed

ps  Clarke, i played varsity chess my freshman year, you can bet i got all 
the chicks.  i also play a mean violin.  i am a renaissance man indeed.

pps  Simon, i dont just have penchant for older women; im 17, i go after 
anything that moves.


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