Srilatha Moturi wrote:
> Jennifer, I looked at the screen shots and they are very different
> from what we had in the proposal.
>
> * Directory pane should be in the preferences either under
> mail/news or Advanced. The directory pane will be same as
> Directory Servers dialog you had in the screen shots plus an
> Advanced button.
>
Do you mean in the Global Preferences (Edit --> Preferences) or in the
Mail/News Account Settings dialogs (Edit --> Mail/News Account
Settings)? I'm guessing you mean the Global Prefs. I think it will be
very hard to users to find this here. A problem that 4.x had is that
users selected which LDAP server they wanted to search against in the AB
pref panel, but it was completely unclear to them that they had to go to
a completely different place to setup or modify an LDAP server. (They
had to do this step first by using the menus in the AB.) We should try
not to make this same mistake. It should be clear from the place the
user selects the LDAP server they want to use, how to edit or add LDAP
servers.
Hence, if you want users to enable/disable LDAP autocomplete and (in the
future) select which LDAP server to use, to be in the Mail/News Account
Settings per account, editing or creating LDAP servers should be an off
shoot of that setting not in a whole different location.
> * We need to have an Advanced options dialog.
> * The Autocompletion part of the Address books pane should be in
> the Mail/News Account settings. We will have one pane per
> mail/news account.(if Scott and Candice agree with this change).
> In this pane we will also have the typedown pane described in the
> propsal.
>
So, fo each account, the user should be able to enable/disable
autocomplete and select the desired LDAP server (future)? OK.
> * Move rest of Address Books pane to Mail/News global pane (a la
> the SMTP server), with an eye towards moving it to a per-account
> pane in the future (if Scott and Candice agree with this change).
>
Move the rest to the Mail/News Account Settings (Edit --> Mail/News
Account Settings)? Or Global Prefs (Edit --> Prefs)? And by "rest" do
you mean the Collected Addresses settings?
> *
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or comments
> Srilatha
>
> Jennifer Glick wrote:
>
>> OK, here is my attempt at some screen shots for this.
>>
>> http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/specs/addressbook/LDAP.html
>>
>> Let me know were I'm wrong or what I'm missing.
>>
>> Dan Mosedale wrote:
>>
>> > [distribution widened, as I think .mail-news readers are likely to
>> care
>> > about this]
>> >
>> > Csaba Borbola wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Dan,
>> > >
>> > > thanks for the answers Kevin and Dan.
>> > > I won't do much work this week, because I'm on a course.
>> > >
>> > > My part in the LDAP address book project is to do the
>> preferences.
>> > > I would like to know, how did you think to do the preferences
>> settings
>> > > for the autocompletion.
>> >
>> > A very timely question... a few of us eClient folks sat down just
>> > yesterday and came up with a straw-man proposal on this very
>> thing.
>> >
>> > > If you want to use the autocompletion, somewhere you have to
>> specify the
>> > > Directory Server settings, don't you?
>> >
>> > > Are you going to do the way as Netscape 4.x has?
>> >
>> > What we came up with is something like what Netscape 4.x does, but
>> put
>> > together in a way that fits into the Mozilla preferences style.
>> It has
>> > separate panes for Directory, Addressbook, and Autocompletion
>> prefs, and
>> > we've started out only by specifying the Directory and
>> Autocompletion
>> > panes, since that's what we're concentrating on first.
>> >
>> >
>> <http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/specs/proposals/LDAPAddressingPrefs.html>
>>
>> > is an approximate description of what we came up with
>> (unfortunately
>> > couched in my rather terse note-taking style). We'd love to hear
>> > feedback from any and all corners, especially from the current
>> Mozilla
>> > owners of the addressbook preferences UI.
>> >
>> > > I did a short investigation at the beginning about the problem.
>> This is
>> > > really a short description. I attach that at the end of my mail.
>>
>> > >
>> > > So it would be really nice to clarify the overlapping tasks
>> > > corresponding the preferences work, because there is no point to
>>
>> > > do the same work twice.
>> >
>> > Absolutely; I look forward to your comments.
>> >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Csaba
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> *******************************************************************
>> > >
>> > > LDAP related settings in Netscape 4.7:
>> > >
>> > > In address book :
>> > > Add directory menu point -> Dialog is asking for the followings:
>>
>> > >
>> > > Description - name appearing in the left pane
>> > > LDAP server - name of the LDAP directory server
>> > > Server Root - this is the search base inside the directory
>> tree
>> > > Port number - LDAP directory server port number
>> > > Max. number of hits - max number of matches for the query
>> > >
>> > > checkbox for login with name and password - if you tick it,
>> the
>> > > Netscape will drop you out a login name and password
>> dialog
>> > > box before connedcting the directory server
>> > >
>> > > checkbox for secure mode
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Edit menu point -> Preferences -> Mail & Newsgroups ->
>> Addressing
>> > >
>> > > Look for addresses in the following:
>> > > checkbox for local addressbook
>> > > checkbox for Directory server
>> > > drop down box for selecting from the installed directory
>> servers
>> > >
>> > > When there are multiple addresses found:
>> > > show me a list of choices and accept what i have typed
>> selective
>> > > radio buttons
>> > > checkbox for the case, if there is one match in
>> autocompletion
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> *******************************************************************
>> > >
>> > > Classification of the features above:
>> > >
>> > > The whole Addressing section in preferences is related to the
>> > > autocompletion.
>> > >
>> > > There are two types of preferences:
>> > > - one is stored in the prefs.js file in the ~/.mozilla/default
>> > > directory
>> > >
>> > > - the other is stored in an other java script file, which is
>> stored
>> > > among the installed binary files (I'll call them hidden)
>> > >
>> > > Almost all the autocompletion related settings are stored in the
>> hidden
>> > > preferences.
>> >
>> > I guess I don't understand the point of the hidden file. Why not
>> store
>> > all preferences in prefs.js?
>> >
>> > > There are stored the following settings in the prefs.js file:
>> > > -autocompletion enabled
>> > > -csid (UTF-8)
>> >
>> > What's a csid?
>> >
>> > > -description of the LDAP server
>> > > -filename of the adressbook file
>> >
>> > For storing a local copy of the LDAP data?
>> >
>> > > -max. hits
>> > > -port number of LDAP server
>> > > -position of the addressbook in the adressbook list
>> >
>> > > -search base, ie. Server Root
>> > > -LDAP server name
>> > >
>> >
>> > >
>> ********************************************************************
>>
>> > >
>> > > I suggest to store the following extra preferences:
>> > >
>> > > - list of secondary ldap server in case of a not
>> responding primary
>> > > LDAP server
>> >
>> > Is this necessary? I would assume that when an admin has multiple
>> LDAP
>> > servers, they'd just have multiple DNS A records pointing the
>> single
>> > server name to multiple IP addresses, which would be returned in a
>>
>> > single array by gethostbyname().
>> >
>> > Dan
>
