> > Jennifer, I looked at the screen shots and they are very different
> > from what we had in the proposal.
> >
> > * Directory pane should be in the preferences either under
> > mail/news or Advanced. The directory pane will be same as
> > Directory Servers dialog you had in the screen shots plus an
> > Advanced button.
> >
> Do you mean in the Global Preferences (Edit --> Preferences) or in the
> Mail/News Account Settings dialogs (Edit --> Mail/News Account
> Settings)? I'm guessing you mean the Global Prefs. I think it will be
> very hard to users to find this here. A problem that 4.x had is that
> users selected which LDAP server they wanted to search against in the AB
> pref panel, but it was completely unclear to them that they had to go to
> a completely different place to setup or modify an LDAP server. (They
> had to do this step first by using the menus in the AB.) We should try
> not to make this same mistake. It should be clear from the place the
> user selects the LDAP server they want to use, how to edit or add LDAP
> servers.
>
> Hence, if you want users to enable/disable LDAP autocomplete and (in the
> future) select which LDAP server to use, to be in the Mail/News Account
> Settings per account, editing or creating LDAP servers should be an off
> shoot of that setting not in a whole different location.
Actually we want to do enable/disable LDAP autocomplete in the mail/news account
setting per account now(not future). Then we have to put editing or creating LDAP
servers in the typedown pane. This we will have one per mail/news account(Edit->
Mail/News Account Settings).
Dmose, Leif any comments on this.
> > * We need to have an Advanced options dialog.
> > * The Autocompletion part of the Address books pane should be in
> > the Mail/News Account settings. We will have one pane per
> > mail/news account.(if Scott and Candice agree with this change).
> > In this pane we will also have the typedown pane described in the
> > propsal.
> >
> So, fo each account, the user should be able to enable/disable
> autocomplete and select the desired LDAP server (future)? OK.
>
For now, not future.
>
> > * Move rest of Address Books pane to Mail/News global pane (a la
> > the SMTP server), with an eye towards moving it to a per-account
> > pane in the future (if Scott and Candice agree with this change).
> >
> Move the rest to the Mail/News Account Settings (Edit --> Mail/News
> Account Settings)? Or Global Prefs (Edit --> Prefs)? And by "rest" do
> you mean the Collected Addresses settings?
>
Yes, move Collected Address Settings to Edit->Mail/News Account Settings.
>
> > *
> >
> > Let me know if you have any questions or comments
> > Srilatha
> >
> > Jennifer Glick wrote:
> >
> >> OK, here is my attempt at some screen shots for this.
> >>
> >> http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/specs/addressbook/LDAP.html
> >>
> >> Let me know were I'm wrong or what I'm missing.
> >>
> >> Dan Mosedale wrote:
> >>
> >> > [distribution widened, as I think .mail-news readers are likely to
> >> care
> >> > about this]
> >> >
> >> > Csaba Borbola wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Dan,
> >> > >
> >> > > thanks for the answers Kevin and Dan.
> >> > > I won't do much work this week, because I'm on a course.
> >> > >
> >> > > My part in the LDAP address book project is to do the
> >> preferences.
> >> > > I would like to know, how did you think to do the preferences
> >> settings
> >> > > for the autocompletion.
> >> >
> >> > A very timely question... a few of us eClient folks sat down just
> >> > yesterday and came up with a straw-man proposal on this very
> >> thing.
> >> >
> >> > > If you want to use the autocompletion, somewhere you have to
> >> specify the
> >> > > Directory Server settings, don't you?
> >> >
> >> > > Are you going to do the way as Netscape 4.x has?
> >> >
> >> > What we came up with is something like what Netscape 4.x does, but
> >> put
> >> > together in a way that fits into the Mozilla preferences style.
> >> It has
> >> > separate panes for Directory, Addressbook, and Autocompletion
> >> prefs, and
> >> > we've started out only by specifying the Directory and
> >> Autocompletion
> >> > panes, since that's what we're concentrating on first.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> <http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/specs/proposals/LDAPAddressingPrefs.html>
> >>
> >> > is an approximate description of what we came up with
> >> (unfortunately
> >> > couched in my rather terse note-taking style). We'd love to hear
> >> > feedback from any and all corners, especially from the current
> >> Mozilla
> >> > owners of the addressbook preferences UI.
> >> >
> >> > > I did a short investigation at the beginning about the problem.
> >> This is
> >> > > really a short description. I attach that at the end of my mail.
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > So it would be really nice to clarify the overlapping tasks
> >> > > corresponding the preferences work, because there is no point to
> >>
> >> > > do the same work twice.
> >> >
> >> > Absolutely; I look forward to your comments.
> >> >
> >> > > Thanks
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Csaba
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> *******************************************************************
> >> > >
> >> > > LDAP related settings in Netscape 4.7:
> >> > >
> >> > > In address book :
> >> > > Add directory menu point -> Dialog is asking for the followings:
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > Description - name appearing in the left pane
> >> > > LDAP server - name of the LDAP directory server
> >> > > Server Root - this is the search base inside the directory
> >> tree
> >> > > Port number - LDAP directory server port number
> >> > > Max. number of hits - max number of matches for the query
> >> > >
> >> > > checkbox for login with name and password - if you tick it,
> >> the
> >> > > Netscape will drop you out a login name and password
> >> dialog
> >> > > box before connedcting the directory server
> >> > >
> >> > > checkbox for secure mode
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Edit menu point -> Preferences -> Mail & Newsgroups ->
> >> Addressing
> >> > >
> >> > > Look for addresses in the following:
> >> > > checkbox for local addressbook
> >> > > checkbox for Directory server
> >> > > drop down box for selecting from the installed directory
> >> servers
> >> > >
> >> > > When there are multiple addresses found:
> >> > > show me a list of choices and accept what i have typed
> >> selective
> >> > > radio buttons
> >> > > checkbox for the case, if there is one match in
> >> autocompletion
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> *******************************************************************
> >> > >
> >> > > Classification of the features above:
> >> > >
> >> > > The whole Addressing section in preferences is related to the
> >> > > autocompletion.
> >> > >
> >> > > There are two types of preferences:
> >> > > - one is stored in the prefs.js file in the ~/.mozilla/default
> >> > > directory
> >> > >
> >> > > - the other is stored in an other java script file, which is
> >> stored
> >> > > among the installed binary files (I'll call them hidden)
> >> > >
> >> > > Almost all the autocompletion related settings are stored in the
> >> hidden
> >> > > preferences.
> >> >
> >> > I guess I don't understand the point of the hidden file. Why not
> >> store
> >> > all preferences in prefs.js?
> >> >
> >> > > There are stored the following settings in the prefs.js file:
> >> > > -autocompletion enabled
> >> > > -csid (UTF-8)
> >> >
> >> > What's a csid?
> >> >
> >> > > -description of the LDAP server
> >> > > -filename of the adressbook file
> >> >
> >> > For storing a local copy of the LDAP data?
> >> >
> >> > > -max. hits
> >> > > -port number of LDAP server
> >> > > -position of the addressbook in the adressbook list
> >> >
> >> > > -search base, ie. Server Root
> >> > > -LDAP server name
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> ********************************************************************
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > I suggest to store the following extra preferences:
> >> > >
> >> > > - list of secondary ldap server in case of a not
> >> responding primary
> >> > > LDAP server
> >> >
> >> > Is this necessary? I would assume that when an admin has multiple
> >> LDAP
> >> > servers, they'd just have multiple DNS A records pointing the
> >> single
> >> > server name to multiple IP addresses, which would be returned in a
> >>
> >> > single array by gethostbyname().
> >> >
> >> > Dan
> >
