Well, I did not mean to talk for every union, just for those my dears and friends were
close to. The last of those was the one they have for medical emergency technicians
(EMT) in NYC. My nephew worked for CityWide for a year or so. For this short period
one or two generation of U-bosses got jailed for bribery and misusing union money (I
am not sure about their level), still they continued mistreating workers, cooperating
with the administration on any account (including delays in insuring their workers
even longer than was written in the contract that in case of my nephew led to the
actual loss). Of course this one is slightly specific: workers are unable to attend
meetings because out-of-hours job is normal for EMTs and the contract does not oblige
the administration to let them meet. Basically, those who work hard do not have the
ability to discuss the contract. They do not get any doubles/triples for any holidays
or nights, only 50% for more than 12 hours a day -- but
this does not happen often.
Not that I liked the topic -- I just did not want to be considered unfounded.
Pavel
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I was part of the UFCW I htink that is what it was for 10 years from high
school through college yes I was on the 6 year plan.
I never noticed anything but that I got great benifits and a rediculous
hourly rate. In 1982 I was making 13.52 an hour checking groceries. Plus
double time on Sundays and triple time on Holidays. I made over 30k in
1982 while working an average of just over 30 hours a week... of course
being single I worked all Sundays and Holidays quite happily. 40 bucks an
hour for missing out on the July 4th fireworks while 22 years old seemed
hardly difficult price to pay.
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Hello Bobbee,
Sorry for continuing on the off-topic..
There is something common and unfortunate in all unions I heard about from
my buddies and relatives who happened to join them: after a little while a
union is going to take advantage of its hard working members much more
efficiently than the employer.
So, unless you are going to leave the technical side and join the dark one
(meaning -- union administration), a union may not be a beneficial idea for
you. For some intermediate form, though, take a look at
http://www.freelancersunion.org/. I am not saying they are not like all
others unions (and I am not a member myself, I am permanent as of now), but
at least they do not have (and supposedly won't have any soon) an exlusive
with any employer/trade of type "union job".
Pavel
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Yes I agree,
And sure, There are alot of corners on Wall St.!!!!
bee-oh-dubble-bee-dubble-egh
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>Here! Here!
>
>It is more common today that contracting agencies are taking advantage of
>the large surplus of unemployed by paying really bad, but charging the
>clients a lot. I suspect that this contract agency if it is one is
>charging the client 50-75 percent over this amount.
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>Let me know when you get that tin can and I'll join you ;-)
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>Chris
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>This is not a technical issue so take a back seat if you want to complain
>
>WOW. Look at this. Notice the rate????
>
>SKILLS REQUIRED: MQ Series, Unix, mainframe
>LOCATION: Hicksville, NY
>RATE: $25-30/hr
>AREA: 516
>LENGTH: 12 months
>TERM: CON_IND CON_CORP
>SUMMARY: Xxxxxxxxx Xxxxxx has an immediate opening for a Software Support
>Specialist. Candidate should be able work as a MQ Series administrator and
>support various MQ series messaging infrastructure related projects.
>Candidate must be familiar with MQSeries V5.2 and...
>
>You know there is a vagrant who hangs out in fromnt of Grand Central
>Station. They did and article on him a few years back in the NY Times. He
>supposedly make about 100+ K a year pan handeling. I think after my
current
>contract ends I'm going to the hardware store to get a tin cup and
increase
>my revenue why decreasing my exposure to STRESS!! We need to start a
>UNION!!!
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>
>bee-oh-dubble-bee-dubble-egh
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