Some people have tried the manuals verbatim but are really confused because they are not at your intellectual level. If this list is for the "intelligent only", change the title please. Not everyone can decipher a manual. I may post questions but there are reasons for them. My time is just as valuable as yours. take care. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check "http://www.mysql.com/documentation/manual.php" before posting. To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a message to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you have a broken mail client that cannot send a message to the above address (Microsoft Outlook), you can use: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php