Gorjan,
Don't you think it would be a better idea to comply with ANSI SQL92 before we
start talking about adding features that are really not needed nor critical?
Gorjan Todorovski wrote:
> To Ed: Why be so negative about adding new features to the DB server? Why
> not make things easier and make the DB more flexible by supporting more
> standards for TRANSPORTING data.
>
> About the education I think that is not the problem here since the guy that
> posted the thing about XML support in mySQL has Master's degree in computer
> science and begins a doctorate thesis in database systems...so.... :)
>
> on 2/22/01 3:34 PM, Cal Evans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Top of the morning to ya Aaron,
> >
> > 1: Ed did not suggest that everyone has to have a CS degree. Not defending
> > Ed because based on his posts this morning, someone pissed in his Cheerios
> > but he simply stated that people should be a little more educated about the
> > subject before posting.
> >
> > 2: The discussion started with someone stating that MySQL should be extended
> > to accept XML statements, not a wrapper. I think everyone against embedding
> > XML in MySQL has advocated a wrapper.
> >
> > 3: Never claim stupidity, it gives flamers more ammo to work with. :)
> >
> > Cal
> > http://www.calevans.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aaron Weiker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:00 AM
> > To: 'Ed Carp'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: RE: XML support under mySQL
> >
> >
> > For some reason I don't think this was understood of what I said earlier.
> >
> > THE "DATABASE" ISN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR XML
> >
> > But, just because the database isn't responsible doesn't mean that the
> > application is responsible for generating XML.
> >
> > Due to the fact I don't have my computer science degree like Ed Carp said we
> > all should. I'm going to claim stupidity and yet still say my $0.02.
> >
> > We all know that the database is not responsible, nor should it be
> > responsible for only making it's data accessible through XML. This is not at
> > all what people need, nor are they asking for this. All people want is a way
> > to put this wrapper on MySQL to be able to send queries to and have the
> > output be in XML. There is no problem with this, nor should there be months
> > of debate on whether or not this is a database function because it's
> > obviously not. What people want is to have MySQL, an Open Source Database
> > that is pretty damn good, take the initiative and make this wrapper to
> > distribute with MySQL. Now if someone else wants to do this that's no big
> > deal, let's just give MySQL a copy so that they distribute it with MySQL.
> > You can't preach to me about how hard this is. If it wasn't for the fact
> > I've been stuck working on Microsoft the past year I would do it in a couple
> > days, I've already dome similar to create an XML feed manually for Microsoft
> > SQL using ASP.
> >
> >
> > Aaron Weiker
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Carp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:42 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: RE: XML support under mySQL
> >
> >
> > Mehalick, Richard RE SSI-GRAX ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> >
> >> Some relational databases return results in XML format.
> >
> > And operating systems have been written in Java and Perl. So? Just because
> > you *can* doesn't mean you *should*.
> >
> > Suppose I want to translate the output to something else. Now I'm stuck - I
> > have to strip off the XML.
> >
> > *MUCH* cleaner to have the database return just data - then you can use
> > something else to wrap the data in anything you want - XML, HTML, PHP,
> > whatever. We use this approach in Escapade - it outputs just data - you
> > decide how you want it wrapped. The idea of dec
> oupling data and metadata is
> > a powerful one and has strong, compelling arguments in its favor - ane one
> > usually taught in first-year computer science classes.
> > --
> > Ed Carp, N7EKG [EMAIL PROTECTED] 940/367-2744 cell phone
> > http://www.pobox.com/~erc [EMAIL PROTECTED] - text pager
> >
> > I sometimes wonder if the American people deserve to be free - they seem
> > so unwilling to fight to preserve the few freedoms they have left.
> >
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