Hi Michael,

the numbers for nixi tubes is one of the problem I havent sufficiently
solved yet. Are your laser cutters able to produce numbers that have 0.4mm
wide lines? The material would be 0.1mm thick stainless steel sheet (316L).

I could send You some sheets to give it a try, just send me your address ;-)

Thank You!

Dalibor

2013/1/27 michael gregg <mgregggph...@gmail.com>

> Sounds good. And yes, other people that have made nixie tubes do seem
> to be getting good results with the level of vacuum that you are
> getting.
>
> Also, I have all sorts of crazy laser cutters here. I may be able to
> come up with a good stack of numbers or other characters if you'd like
> them for your nixie tubes. I have never cut anything so fine with
> these lasers, but according to the manufacturer, I should be able to
> do it.
>
> I am not sure where I would get tiny ceramic separators though.
>
> I am excited to see your results.
>
> Michael-
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 6:14 AM, jb-electronics
> <webmas...@jb-electronics.de> wrote:
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > yes, I will document everything on my website. In fact, most of it is
> > already done, but right now I am writing the vacuum system part and I
> want
> > to document all the steps that I did until now. And now it is far from
> > perfect. So I will show all different setups and number them. My current
> > setup is setup number III.
> >
> > It won't be long ;-)
> >
> > Jens
> >
> >
> >> On 01/25/2013 03:52 PM, jb-electronics wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi folks,
> >>>
> >>> I am still working on Nixie tubes, but I have to take it a little slow
> >>> at the moment because I switched my university and I am currently sort
> >>> of living in two cities ;-)
> >>>
> >>> However, today I had some time so I took a look at my vacuum system.
> >>> My problem was that even after I closed the valve to my pump at a
> >>> pressure of 1.5E-2 mbar, the pressure would rise up to 20mbar in 20
> >>> minutes. So there was a leak.
> >>>
> >>> I then checked every part of my system (swagelok adapter, needle
> >>> valve) by replacing them with a blind flange and recording the
> >>> pressure after 10s, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 120s, 300s, 600s, 1200s
> >>> and plotted them. I realised that there was insufficient greasing on
> >>> my needle valve, and the most interesting thing is that it is not
> >>> airtight if the scale is adjusted to just zero. You have to (gently)
> >>> adjust it below the scale zero point. Then I get a leakage rate of
> >>> just 1.2 琨ar/s which is very low.
> >>>
> >>> My system has a volume of at most (!) 65ml, so the leakage rate now is
> >>> Q = 5.4E-6 mbar l/s which is pretty good I think. See my results here:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.jb-electronics.de/tmp/leakage.png
> >>> http://www.jb-electronics.de/tmp/leakage_extensive.png
> >>>
> >>> Note that the Q value in these diagrams needs to be multiplied with
> 65ml.
> >>>
> >>> The next step will be to find a good connection to the pressure
> >>> reducer for my gas bottle. Right now I am using a PVC hose (terrible),
> >>> and I have huge leakage rates.
> >>>
> >>> But as always: One thing at a time ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Jens
> >>>
> >> Very cool.
> >>
> >> So the leakage rate seems pretty low, but I'd be concerned about the
> >> total vacuum that your system can accomplish.
> >>
> >> Although I have never built nixie tubes myself, I did a good amount of
> >> research to go down that road.
> >>
> >> My research came up with some claims that you need to get down in the
> >> 10E-6 torr before the fill for good results with a nixie tube.
> >>
> >> Anyhow, please keep a image journal of your work. It looks like a great
> >> deal of fun.
> >>
> >> Michael-
> >>
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